Drivetrain Blew motor up!!! AGAIN!!!
The tritec motor before being put into the MINI it was put into neon's and pt cruisers in Central & South America, and Europe. The durability of the motor is amazing and to say it can't make so and so number of horsepower is because your not looking at the big picture of the motor being cast iron block, forged crank, forged rods from the factory and then the only thing that is weak sauce when putting stress on the motor is the sand cast pistons that can fry easily under certain conditions. If you saying its not good to do to a motor that can survive the harsh driving environments of central and south american then the tritec motor should be in a glass case on your mantel not in a car. Mariokart's car seems like it had a failure with the oil pump which even the toughest motors can have the same scenario happen and mods don't create flaws in other components.
My 0.02 cents
My 0.02 cents
Turbius Maximus
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Wow, I am so glad the MINI community is not the people that were there when men like Chuck Yeager, Neil Armstrong, and the like were pushing the limits. No wonder so many people today think it was all faked.
"That's unpossible! Don't do it. You will fail!"
Am I saying that what modders and REAL tuners do is the same as what Chuck did? NO.. but it's the same passion. the same drive. the same spirt
I am so unimpressed by people today. They think if a motor breaks it is failure. Mario pushed the limits. But some of which with out understanding. I have seen more blown motors in a month than this community combined. I learned from it. I found the LIMIT so that I could understand what it was and how to exeed it.
The Tri tech like it's sister in the SRT are infact capable of 300% of what they were "intended for" but you have to know what you are doing. Not just strap on a jato and hit the go button.
I feel for Mario cause he is a prime example of someone who got caught in a kitchen that was too full of chefs. And it has spoiled his soup because guys like me are so tired of having to fight all the others. The ones who say... no no do this... do that... no that's UNPOSSIBLE.
For those of you who have NOT done the testing. Who like to speculate and bench race. You should try listening a little more. Asking more questions. But STOP making statements about things you really have no idea about.
All the #s on paper mean NOTHING with out going out and testing it. Proving it. Finding out where the limit is. Some of us do that. while others speculate about failure cause they are afraid. Well if yer afraid that's ok. But then move along. Go talk about yer cup holder mod, Stickers, and iPod adapters.
"That's unpossible! Don't do it. You will fail!"
Am I saying that what modders and REAL tuners do is the same as what Chuck did? NO.. but it's the same passion. the same drive. the same spirt
I am so unimpressed by people today. They think if a motor breaks it is failure. Mario pushed the limits. But some of which with out understanding. I have seen more blown motors in a month than this community combined. I learned from it. I found the LIMIT so that I could understand what it was and how to exeed it.
The Tri tech like it's sister in the SRT are infact capable of 300% of what they were "intended for" but you have to know what you are doing. Not just strap on a jato and hit the go button.
I feel for Mario cause he is a prime example of someone who got caught in a kitchen that was too full of chefs. And it has spoiled his soup because guys like me are so tired of having to fight all the others. The ones who say... no no do this... do that... no that's UNPOSSIBLE.
For those of you who have NOT done the testing. Who like to speculate and bench race. You should try listening a little more. Asking more questions. But STOP making statements about things you really have no idea about.
All the #s on paper mean NOTHING with out going out and testing it. Proving it. Finding out where the limit is. Some of us do that. while others speculate about failure cause they are afraid. Well if yer afraid that's ok. But then move along. Go talk about yer cup holder mod, Stickers, and iPod adapters.
Being a vintage Vespa enthusiast, I learned the hard way that any time you start messing around with modifications to the factory setup, you take your chances. Sometimes they work well, sometimes they turn into a black hole.
It's not usually any one modification that does you in, but rather a combination of modifications that ultimately add up to a blown engine. The MINI was designed to a price-point, no doubt, but they simply were not intended to pump 200+ HP out of a 1.6 liter engine.
It's not usually any one modification that does you in, but rather a combination of modifications that ultimately add up to a blown engine. The MINI was designed to a price-point, no doubt, but they simply were not intended to pump 200+ HP out of a 1.6 liter engine.
Last edited by Tüls; Jan 28, 2008 at 08:26 AM.
Caffeine Junkie
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Can the engine survive massive mods? Sure, but all I'm saying is don't be surprised when/if it all goes sideways, in a very expensive manner.
Mods don't "create" flaws in other components, but they do place additional stresses upon those components, which may or may not have been designed to withstand such stresses; leg bone connected to the knee bone, and all.
EDIT: Easy, guys - I'm not questioning your manhood or saying that MINIs should never be modified.
Mods don't "create" flaws in other components, but they do place additional stresses upon those components, which may or may not have been designed to withstand such stresses; leg bone connected to the knee bone, and all.
EDIT: Easy, guys - I'm not questioning your manhood or saying that MINIs should never be modified.
Last edited by Claymore; Jan 28, 2008 at 08:33 AM.
Perhaps you've never heard of the JCW kit and JCW GP Edition? Both come from the factory with the power levels you are talking about. What do they do to make power? Reworked head, exhaust, s/c pulley, injectors, airbox, intercooler (GP) and special ECU tunes. What are most of us doing to make power? The exact same stuff.
Wow, I am so glad the MINI community is not the people that were there when men like Chuck Yeager, Neil Armstrong, and the like were pushing the limits. No wonder so many people today think it was all faked.
"That's unpossible! Don't do it. You will fail!"
Am I saying that what modders and REAL tuners do is the same as what Chuck did? NO.. but it's the same passion. the same drive. the same spirt
I am so unimpressed by people today. They think if a motor breaks it is failure. Mario pushed the limits. But some of which with out understanding. I have seen more blown motors in a month than this community combined. I learned from it. I found the LIMIT so that I could understand what it was and how to exeed it.
The Tri tech like it's sister in the SRT are infact capable of 300% of what they were "intended for" but you have to know what you are doing. Not just strap on a jato and hit the go button.
I feel for Mario cause he is a prime example of someone who got caught in a kitchen that was too full of chefs. And it has spoiled his soup because guys like me are so tired of having to fight all the others. The ones who say... no no do this... do that... no that's UNPOSSIBLE.
For those of you who have NOT done the testing. Who like to speculate and bench race. You should try listening a little more. Asking more questions. But STOP making statements about things you really have no idea about.
All the #s on paper mean NOTHING with out going out and testing it. Proving it. Finding out where the limit is. Some of us do that. while others speculate about failure cause they are afraid. Well if yer afraid that's ok. But then move along. Go talk about yer cup holder mod, Stickers, and iPod adapters.
"That's unpossible! Don't do it. You will fail!"
Am I saying that what modders and REAL tuners do is the same as what Chuck did? NO.. but it's the same passion. the same drive. the same spirt
I am so unimpressed by people today. They think if a motor breaks it is failure. Mario pushed the limits. But some of which with out understanding. I have seen more blown motors in a month than this community combined. I learned from it. I found the LIMIT so that I could understand what it was and how to exeed it.
The Tri tech like it's sister in the SRT are infact capable of 300% of what they were "intended for" but you have to know what you are doing. Not just strap on a jato and hit the go button.
I feel for Mario cause he is a prime example of someone who got caught in a kitchen that was too full of chefs. And it has spoiled his soup because guys like me are so tired of having to fight all the others. The ones who say... no no do this... do that... no that's UNPOSSIBLE.
For those of you who have NOT done the testing. Who like to speculate and bench race. You should try listening a little more. Asking more questions. But STOP making statements about things you really have no idea about.
All the #s on paper mean NOTHING with out going out and testing it. Proving it. Finding out where the limit is. Some of us do that. while others speculate about failure cause they are afraid. Well if yer afraid that's ok. But then move along. Go talk about yer cup holder mod, Stickers, and iPod adapters.
Turbius Maximus
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So you know Claymore, I quoted you for reference. Not for personal reasons. You happen to stick you head out in to a firefight that has been going on since the MINI hit 250WHP in '02 
nothing personal.
Plus if I think if there were man hood issues... we would drive mustangs and other muscle cars
nothing personal.
Plus if I think if there were man hood issues... we would drive mustangs and other muscle cars
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All the #s on paper mean NOTHING with out going out and testing it. Proving it. Finding out where the limit is. Some of us do that. while others speculate about failure cause they are afraid. Well if yer afraid that's ok. But then move along. Go talk about yer cup holder mod, Stickers, and iPod adapters.
...I am so unimpressed by people today. They think if a motor breaks it is failure. Mario pushed the limits. But some of which with out understanding. I have seen more blown motors in a month than this community combined. I learned from it. I found the LIMIT so that I could understand what it was and how to exeed it...
I'm not one of those guys, but but I am fascinated watching those who are.
Kudos to the risk takers!
Originally Posted by Tüls
All the #s on paper mean NOTHING with out going out and testing it. Proving it. Finding out where the limit is. Some of us do that. while others speculate about failure cause they are afraid. Well if yer afraid that's ok. But then move along. Go talk about yer cup holder mod, Stickers, and iPod adapters.
The intravee II is a GREAT ipod adapter.
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So you know Claymore, I quoted you for reference. Not for personal reasons. You happen to stick you head out in to a firefight that has been going on since the MINI hit 250WHP in '02
nothing personal.
Plus if I think if there were man hood issues... we would drive mustangs and other muscle cars
nothing personal.
Plus if I think if there were man hood issues... we would drive mustangs and other muscle cars
I just ordered a shorty antenna for my MINI. Do you think it will void the warranty or reduce the lifespan of the motor due to the change in drag?
Perhaps you've never heard of the JCW kit and JCW GP Edition? Both come from the factory with the power levels you are talking about. What do they do to make power? Reworked head, exhaust, s/c pulley, injectors, airbox, intercooler (GP) and special ECU tunes. What are most of us doing to make power? The exact same stuff.
Last edited by jaynicholson; Jan 28, 2008 at 03:31 PM.
4th Gear
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I spoke to Danny today and all the parts are being looked at. I told him I just want a new crank with bearings. To me its not worth saving $200 for a rebuilt crank with over sized bearings. I will be getting new gaskets, oil pump and some small other stuff but it shouldn't be too bad. It might be time to trade in my bad luck black Mini.
Are you going to have the crank/rods/pistons balanced/bluperinted?
Is Jan fixing you up with a baffle in the pan to avoid low oil pressure?
Have you considered the Accusump or something like that?
What oil do you run?
How much is a new crank?
Just curious. Looking to living vicariously, and dangerously, thru you.
Steve
So you know Claymore, I quoted you for reference. Not for personal reasons. You happen to stick you head out in to a firefight that has been going on since the MINI hit 250WHP in '02
nothing personal.
Plus if I think if there were man hood issues... we would drive mustangs and other muscle cars
nothing personal.
Plus if I think if there were man hood issues... we would drive mustangs and other muscle cars
Turbius Maximus
Joined: Mar 2004
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holy moly! look who it is!
sorry brutha, it's not the car as much as the majority of tool boxes and those in need of extension who seem to drive them. I'll never forget one of my first encounters in the MINI when it was SC only. This tool bag in a classic looks at me at a light and says "you're kidding right?" I didn't actually know what he was saying at first. So I said, " excuse me?" and he said it again... Well, the light changed while he was looking at me, so, I put out my hand and moved it to the right as in a "after you"... well the rest... uhhh...I'll just say, that joker was a sad sad panda
it was a good day...
sorry brutha, it's not the car as much as the majority of tool boxes and those in need of extension who seem to drive them. I'll never forget one of my first encounters in the MINI when it was SC only. This tool bag in a classic looks at me at a light and says "you're kidding right?" I didn't actually know what he was saying at first. So I said, " excuse me?" and he said it again... Well, the light changed while he was looking at me, so, I put out my hand and moved it to the right as in a "after you"... well the rest... uhhh...I'll just say, that joker was a sad sad panda
it was a good day...
Last edited by Tüls; Jan 28, 2008 at 06:45 PM.
