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Drivetrain ALTA's GT2560R Turbo Kit... breaking 220WHP!

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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 03:09 PM
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Jeff,
What about the "hard" tube between the IC and the throttle body? I am not the only one to notice the restrictions in this tube, due to the dimples for wrench clearances, etc. Looks to me there could be some gains there. And what is that electronic doo-hickey just before it meets the boost tube that connects to the throttle body? Also, I deleted the "sound generator" completely (it wouldn't stay connected at the firewall) by machining a plug for that port in the boost tube. Looks like a small gain could be had by making a boost tube without the "sound generator" port, or better yet, a machined plug that, when installed in the boost tube, has the same contour as the ID of the tube. That way, wouldn't have to design a new tube, and the flow would be more smooth. Right now, there should be some turbulence at that transition. Lastly, any news on shipping red intake tubes? Patiently waiting on mine!
 

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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 05:18 PM
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Alta I personally hate you guys, you know how hard it is to keep your car stock to 50000 miles when you guys are coming up with such cool things. Personally I would love to have this kit, but I am ashamed to say it must stay stock. Nice work Alta
 
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by eg0911
Alta I personally hate you guys, you know how hard it is to keep your car stock to 50000 miles when you guys are coming up with such cool things. Personally I would love to have this kit, but I am ashamed to say it must stay stock. Nice work Alta
Haha, hardcore warranty guy. I applaud your patience, and may many mods be ahead of your 50,000 celebration!
 
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Chili Mini
Thanks allot for the useful infroemation. Are you taking orders on the turbo kit from now?
Kind of, we can take down your info and call you as we get closer.

Originally Posted by Li'l Red's Rider
Jeff,
What about the "hard" tube between the IC and the throttle body? I am not the only one to notice the restrictions in this tube, due to the dimples for wrench clearances, etc. Looks to me there could be some gains there. And what is that electronic doo-hickey just before it meets the boost tube that connects to the throttle body? Also, I deleted the "sound generator" completely (it wouldn't stay connected at the firewall) by machining a plug for that port in the boost tube. Looks like a small gain could be had by making a boost tube without the "sound generator" port, or better yet, a machined plug that, when installed in the boost tube, has the same contour as the ID of the tube. That way, wouldn't have to design a new tube, and the flow would be more smooth. Right now, there should be some turbulence at that transition. Lastly, any news on shipping red intake tubes? Patiently waiting on mine!
The turbulance of this isn't going to do anything. If you look at every turbo car in the world they have a connection like this for BOVs and other things.

The cold side lower hose is something we can do, but because of space, and clearance of things, i don't think its the best idea. I think there would b e lots of rubbing, and to make it bigger and not hit on things would be tuff.

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Alta I personally hate you guys, you know how hard it is to keep your car stock to 50000 miles when you guys are coming up with such cool things. Personally I would love to have this kit, but I am ashamed to say it must stay stock. Nice work Alta
Personally, i am a "warranty...Shmorranty!" kind of person. BUt i understand your concerns. IF something went wrong with a turbo kit installed, then yes, no more warranty.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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Personally, i am a "warranty...Shmorranty!" kind of person. BUt i understand your concerns. IF something went wrong with a turbo kit installed, then yes, no more warranty.[/quote]

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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 08:12 PM
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So ALTA, when we gonna see one of these bad boys on a MINI???

 
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 09:27 AM
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hp

So with everything from alta you can only get 220hp i thought that would be way more
 
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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So with everything from alta you can only get 220hp i thought that would be way more
no.....currently they're hitting 270whp
 
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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So with everything from alta you can only get 220hp i thought that would be way more
yep, quite a bit more HP than that. Also keep in mind top HP is only one of the numbmers. Also look at the torque band. HP sells cars.. Torque wins races.. High HP is just a function of torque at high RPM.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by unsalada
So with everything from alta you can only get 220hp i thought that would be way more
220whp is before the Turbo kit, water injection and whatever they have planned next to blow our socks off. ALTA comes out with brand new mods relatively often, so don't think what you see offered now is the end for the MINI!
 
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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Plus that's whp vs. bhp methinks.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Msteadman
220whp is before the Turbo kit, water injection and whatever they have planned next to blow our socks off. ALTA comes out with brand new mods relatively often, so don't think what you see offered now is the end for the MINI!
Good point!
 
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 12:18 AM
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ALTA, or anyone else, could a larger cold side be fitted into this turbo Chassis?? just thinking it could make a nice 'Race' version. i have heard that on some Garretts you can put much larger compresor and turbine wheels into housings with some machine work.

thanks Chris.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 08:57 AM
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We have 2 bigger turbos that could be installed, but remember, its a trade off for low end power. The turbo we have installed, isn't maxed out, and i think it can hit 300. This is with minimal lag. As much as the graphs show a huge loss in low end power, you don't even notice it when driving the car. It actually feels faster in all aspects even with a little low end power gone.

When will these be on cars?? Early next year is the plan. I think we have tested it enough and we feel its ready to start building!
 
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ALTA2
We have 2 bigger turbos that could be installed, but remember, its a trade off for low end power. The turbo we have installed, isn't maxed out, and i think it can hit 300. This is with minimal lag. As much as the graphs show a huge loss in low end power, you don't even notice it when driving the car. It actually feels faster in all aspects even with a little low end power gone.

When will these be on cars?? Early next year is the plan. I think we have tested it enough and we feel its ready to start building!
Well that is some good news.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 02:01 PM
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Has anyone an estimate of how much HP we can run before quickly breaking parts? I'm thinking anything after 300whp will realllllly shorten the life of parts if driven hard daily..?

Also, I can't wait for this turbo kit.. If it's impressive and numbers are right (1/4 mile estimates?) I'm 100% getting the turbo you can count on it!
 
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 02:24 PM
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Well pistons and rods are on the way, so we can determine how good they are and so we can build better ones!
 
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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what about the head studs, do you think the stock ones will be good enough with the higher boost?
 
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 12:44 PM
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Haven't heard much about this since the start of the new year.

Any updates ALTA??
 
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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Just lots of testing! So far 270WHP and things are running great!
 
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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Thanks for asking!

Jeff and I are doing durability testing at this time. Every thing is a-ok. We can begin releasing kits as soon as enough clients ask.

So you guys READY?
 
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ALTA2
Just lots of testing! So far 270WHP and things are running great!


Man, once my warranty is up...
 
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ADAMSALTAMINI
Thanks for asking!

So you guys READY?

1200 miles, yep my warranty is up, what all is included? what is the rolled up cost, figure kit plus any needed extras... gauges, etc.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 05:15 PM
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Good!!

Get some videos going of it and really get me excited!

I'll take one with the GT2871R
 
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 08:50 PM
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I want it, if you can shoot me a bundled price with the turbokit and the supporting mods. Shipped to 37027.
 
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