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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 04:43 PM
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I don't understand all of this doubting and criticism by people who haven't seen or driven a car with this head installed. Even after praise from Thumper Heads, MSFITOY, SpiderX, Tuls, and Ryephile amongst many. My wifes car had the fifth or sixth RMW head installed. I saw it at AMVIV and had a good discussion with Tuls about it's design and construction. The price was very competitive. After reading Gnatster's post about his car, I called Jan and had an install appointment four days later. Jan personally brought the head to the shop for the install and stayed until it was completed so that he could take it out for a test drive to insure it was all working properly. He even bought lunch that day. I think that the RMW Head was the best bang for the buck we spent on my wifes MINI. It made a huge difference in the performance and drivability and we are very happy with it. Sorry doubters, no dyno, just big grins everytime we hit the gas. We are now anxiously looking forward to the new software. Thanks Jan. I'm sure there are more of Jan's customers on here who will chime in.
 

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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by batrugger
I don't understand all of this doubting and criticism by people who haven't seen or driven a car with this head installed. Even after praise from Thumper Heads, MSFITOY, SpiderX, Tuls, and Ryephile amongst many. My wifes car had the fifth or sixth RMW head installed. I saw it at AMVIV and had a good discussion with Tuls about it's design and construction. The price was very competitive. After reading Gnatster's post about his car, I called Jan and had an install appointment four days later. Jan personally brought the head to the shop for the install and stayed until it was completed so that he could take it out for a test drive to insure it was all working properly. He even bought lunch that day. I think that the RMW Head was the best bang for the buck we spent on my wifes MINI. It made a huge difference in the performance and drivability and we are very happy with it. Sorry doubters, no dyno, just big grins everytime we hit the gas. We are now anxiously looking forward to the new software. Thanks Jan. I'm sure there are more of Jan's customers on here who will chime in.
Yes - it is interesting that someone finally comes along and strives to prove his products on the dyno. For better or worse, for six long years the unwashed masses have asked for a tuner to prove claimed gains and here comes Jan - willing to put any car that is on the receiving end of his products to the test and what does he get for it? A big rash and a crap.

Jan has long been on the cutting edge of Mini horsepower. The people who have done business with him so far have had nothing but good things to say about his product and his enthusiasm for same.

Let's get some things straight. I've seen rumors and innuendos on this and other forums regarding testing methods that may or may not have been performed on RMW equipped cars. Who gives a crap? Doesn't anyone find it ironic that alot of these insinuations are coming from Vendors who seem to be allergic to the dyno? Go put your own products on the dyno or on the drag strip before you start trashing someone who actually posts the deltas.

Jan, it appears that you're gaining quite a loyal following with your products. My congratulations to you as I have no doubts that you deserve it. I know you're a stand up guy who will do right by the community. I also know that this isn't your first time in the Arena. I'm guessing you probably saw a lot of this coming.......

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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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BRAVO! Skip...... BRAVO! thanks for not being.... well you know...
 
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Skiploder
...and what does he get for it? A big rash and a crap.
Isn't the saying "a big ration of crap"? (Although the mental image of getting both a rash and a crap is interesting).
 
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 09:01 PM
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Well said Skip...

And what ever that Hot Mini is in your sig Tuls, I'm lovin it...rear drive?
 
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottRiqui
Isn't the saying "a big ration of crap"? (Although the mental image of getting both a rash and a crap is interesting).
Please tell me I haven't been butchering that saying for the last three decades or so.......

Let me Google it.......wait..........

You're right - well I'll be a skunky's uncle!
 
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by MSFITOY

And what ever that Hot Mini is in your sig Tuls, I'm lovin it...rear drive?
not yet!

that's my Pchop of where I wanna go with my car....
 

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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MSFITOY
..... what ever that Hot Mini is in your sig Tuls, I'm lovin it...
second that!
 
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 08:14 AM
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here's another chop... it was a DS MINI from MINI UNITED that G.Bridger took a pic of... I choped it to look like my MINI and added some kewlness too it as well...
 
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 08:16 AM
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Pretty nice

Originally Posted by Tüls
here's another chop... it was a DS MINI from MINI UNITED that G.Bridger took a pic of... I choped it to look like my MINI and added some kewlness too it as well...
 
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Revolution Mini Works
and what did Danny pull that day?

200whp?
Actually he pulled about 180 until we the dyno magically warmed up after Emil tuned his car. One of his runs he LOST power with the tune, like 10 HP IIRC. Its worth mentioning that Dannys car made about 139 ft/lbs of torque on that dyno, and the person running the dyno didn't have a clue what he was doing. Marios car went from 180 whp to 230+ after a tune. And his AF only went up about .8-1, so it's not like he was running some ridiculously rich program.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 07:47 PM
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For what it's worth, I was the 3rd person to put Jan's head on my car, and i've had it for a while now, and love it. It's added a lot more character to the car, and this is how it should have driven out of the factory. My friend who just spent $6.000 dollars to put a supercharger on his A4 3.0 still remarks that my car has more punch than his by far. I have no idea what the numerical figure is for HP, I just know that I enjoy the way my car drives, which I why I dumped the $2,000+ to do it in the first place.

Jan is a great guy, and I love working with him

Danny is an amazing Mechanic and Friend, and has more than gone out of his way to make sure my car is taken care of. Top rate, and highly recommended.

I stay away from NAM nowadays because of threads like this one, and the level of immaturity that some members have displayed in the past. I wish everyone luck in whatever modding endeavors they may be undertaking.
 

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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 07:26 AM
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Re: RMW Head

I met Jan this year at The Dragon after talking with him for several hours and seeing his Cylinder head I was sold.
I have been involved with Speed and Hp my whole life, from Off Shore Race boats to Turbo VWs.
After looking over Jan's Cylinder head I knew I had to have one.
It has every aspect of performance covered; research, design, and technology.
So after receiving my very own a few weeks ago and not having time to install it,
last night I just could not take it anymore!! I finished up the install around 12am, and I am very impressed!!!!! No Dyno yet, but in my seat of the pants analysis its added some serious Hp.


Cheers,
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Eddie@1FastMINI
Re: RMW Head

I met Jan this year at The Dragon after talking with him for several hours and seeing his Cylinder head I was sold.
I have been involved with Speed and Hp my whole life, from Off Shore Race boats to Turbo VWs.
After looking over Jan's Cylinder head I knew I had to have one.
It has every aspect of performance covered; research, design, and technology.
So after receiving my very own a few weeks ago and not having time to install it,
last night I just could not take it anymore!! I finished up the install around 12am, and I am very impressed!!!!! No Dyno yet, but in my seat of the pants analysis its added some serious Hp.


Cheers,
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ha ha that's what I'm talking about!! that's a great responce... and I know that feeling.... there have been a few threads over the years that have made me go out and try stuff just cause I was tired of the blah blah blah... LOL
 
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 09:32 AM
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ha ha that's what I'm talking about!! that's a great responce... and I know that feeling.... there have been a few threads over the years that have made me go out and try stuff just cause I was tired of the blah blah blah... LOL

Without blah blah blah this forum would get about 5 posts a day
 
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 10:08 AM
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ha ha!
 
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 09:11 PM
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I have been away from NAM for a couple weeks....

I swear it is ALWAYS something....

However it is good reading...
 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 06:33 PM
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If your car only made 214whp with these mods, then how did Longboard make 231whp with these mods...?

This whole thing with the RMW head just doesn't add up. I'm still waiting for at least ONE other car to come close to 231whp with this head and basic mods.
214whp with all that....I have basic bolt ons, NO head or cam and made 197whp with a crappy tune. i dont get it

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Jan,
My intention here was not to start a war. I just call it like I see it, or in this case hear and read it.

My hang up is with the claims on the RMW head, and i'm actually getting tired of typing this question,
Is there at least ONE other car that can put down numbers like Longboard did with his basic mods and no tune?
That's all I want to see.
We'll find out im sure from others soon enough. I for one will be letting you know with the head my guy is building me.

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Here is a scan of the chart. I don't remember where I posted this before.


Kinda low on those TQ numbers. i made 176 at the wheels with no head
 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 08:52 PM
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DP! aw!
 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 1FSTMINI
Kinda low on those TQ numbers. i made 176 at the wheels with no head

looks like at 7,000 rpms you REALLY start to run rich. aka - areas to improve!
 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 1FSTMINI
Kinda low on those TQ numbers. i made 176 at the wheels with no head
I'm loathe to post anything with results cause no matter how good it might be someone here will always take a shot. But the thing is, I don't really care, I go out to the road course and have fun.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 1FSTMINI



Kinda low on those TQ numbers. i made 176 at the wheels with no head
see but this is where the DYNO wars always happen... its about the delta.... maybe if Nate did a pull on your dyno.. he would be at 214 ft lbs of TQ.... etc... so.... wanna race for slips? LOL
 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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I'm loathe to post anything with results cause no matter how good it might be someone here will always take a shot. But the thing is, I don't really care, I go out to the road course and have fun.
You ever feel like a cheap stripper on this forum? They tell you to take it ALL off and then when you do...guess what? They want to screw you in the
 

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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 09:21 PM
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I can see it now...

The PINKS All NAM SHOOTOUT!


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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
The PINKS All NAM SHOOTOUT!


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good times!!
 
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