A couple of questions:
Do you have to use a PC with Prima products or can they be applied by hand?
With Zaino you have to mix a catalyst to speed up the dry time ... is it the same with Prima?

T

 

Uh Ohh Ken just had another Hydrogasm

 

Prima products can all be applied by hand.

The only difference between application variations is with a few products...
Amigo's super-fine abrasive is non-existent when applied by hand (but for most people that's not why they're using Amigo anyway, so for most it's a moot point)
The abrasives (Cut, Swirl & Finish) will be act more aggressively when applied by PC than when applied by hand.

Prima Epic, the synthetic wax can be applied either way with equal results, as can any of the others.

There is no need for a catalyst with any of the Prima products.

-Heather

 

Glad to hear you received the package and that you're already enjoying it before even using anything!

-Heather

 

My name is Tim....................and I am a Hydro sniffer...........

 

You do not need to use ZFX with Z2. It is optional. It reduces cure time and may make a thicker layer of product.
This is true of any polymer wax, and weather you use ZFX, or Polycharcher, they will even work with other brands like prima.
But in no case do you NEED to use them.
I only use it when I want the first zaino layer to cure quickly so I can apply a second.

 

I understand about the use of ZFX (especially after waiting 2-hours for Z2 to dry).
I guess I was hoping for Prima Epic to have the same drying time as Z2 w/ ZFX ... or will I be watching reruns before I can buff my car off?

 

Heheh

In any case I'm real happy with the set, nicely laid out and I'm excited to start using them. Only sad thing is I don't have my car yet I guess my SLK will get to try it out first
I do have another question about Hydro...since most users spray it on after rinsing their cars, is it same on glass, plastic trims, etc? Or should I try my best to spray onto the panels only? (I know its a dumb question...sorry).

 

We need cooperation to make us a 'Official Hydro Owners Club' badge

 

No question is dumb. You don't have to worry about getting it on the glass nor the plastic trims. It's an amazing product.

 

weeeeeeee~! wth.

 

where's your screaming guy? it's not working. not the same bahdamnit without it

 

There's a link to him in my siggy
Best I can do since they made us unanimate our siggys

 

Sceaming guy is cool, but Hydro users club is better

 

Do you guys use Hydro while its wet to dry...or while its already dry? ...and what kinda towel do you guys use while drying?

 

Both.

I use it when the car is wet - spray it all over and then use a waffle-weave microfiber drying towel to dry.

When the car is clean but just looks like the shine could use a little boost, I use it VERY sparingly and buff with a Monster Fluffy.

 

Both! Though I personally typically water blade most of the water off the car (but leave a bit on), then spray on a very small amount of Hydro, then dry with a DP waffle weave.

Some folks QD with Hydro - but I use Slick. Some folks apply Hydro while the car is "totally" wet after wash, then dry.

 

Both, dry and wet. When wet with a waffle weave, when dry with a monster fluffy.

 

How many washes do you get out of one of those waffle weave towels?

 

It usually takes me one or two to get through a wash. Then I wash them, along with whatever other MFs I used, and put them back in the cabinet all folded and ready for the next wash!

So far I've had all my DP MFs since October/Novemberish and they're all holding up just fine - some are still like new!

 

here's a cross post of my legacy done today. pict taken about 1hr after
the hydro app...it will get even deeper by tomorrow.

black and dark blue (like IB) is such a fun color to play with detailing.

 

i did my final test...driving directly into the sun today. PURE CLARITY.


my griot's WindowCleaner is now officially the outdoor car's outer
window cleaner.

 

Prima Epic's drying time varies a little depending on temperature and humidity (like any other wax really).
However, in temps over 60 degrees, the typical drying time is about 35-45 minutes. I always like to wait a full hour just to make sure.

Many of our customers wait just 35 minutes and still have great results. "Not waiting long enough" usually results in slightly less longterm durability but doesn't hurt anything in the shortrun at all.

At lower temps (and high humidity), it can take a bit longer but not necessarily that much.

When in doubt, you can do the swipe test to see if it's ready to wipe off yet.

Sorry I took so long to see your question!

-Heather

 

Awesome Ken!

How does it look today??

-Heather

 

If you take Epic off too early, it is harder to buff out also.