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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 07:19 PM
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Heather!!!Heather!!!Heather!!!

Outstanding help

Excited about the arrival of your products.

About washing again after claying...never used it, just sounds like something that would leave behind residue and need to wash off
 
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 07:49 PM
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so, sin... you ready to rock?
 
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
so, sin... you ready to rock?
Think so... Still need a few more items but I'm excited!

Thanks for the help.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 05:01 AM
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I'll second that. I am in Ohio and i would gladly make a day trip up there for a seminar.
Yep, me, too. I'd go to Chi town, too...
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Sin MINI
Think so... Still need a few more items but I'm excited!

Thanks for the help.

np! let us know if you find any new tricks or any new products you try
that's worth a look.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 08:19 AM
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This thread rules.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 10:24 AM
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Sin MINI I gotta say I am giggling now You started off just wanting to wash your Mini in a non-OC way & now you have already placed your 1st order with Detailer's Paradise. Do you feel that little old addictive detailing bug nipping at you yet
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by smedley
This thread rules.

you know why this is. it's because you got:

1) Me - the ultra lazy-*** car detailer but noisy as hell on things.

2) Octaneguy - the pro-detailer, the judge of true and false claims.

3) Heather - the dealer with the goodies.

4) then you got the cool audience.

then you got others that are like just noise in the back ground.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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then you got others that are like just noise in the back ground.
Ken, I think Flatulance is the word you're looking for.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 10:37 AM
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^^ hahaha
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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Well I was wondering what that smell was ... just figured it was ol'lazy bones ken, but now I learn it was me all along.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
4) then you got the cool audience.

then you got others that are like just noise in the back ground.
hmmm I wonder which one I fall under Oh well I'm a legend in my own mind so I guess that's all that matters
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 10:47 AM
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try some of this... well, i guess chows hasnt responded (yet).

 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Sin MINI
About washing again after claying...never used it, just sounds like something that would leave behind residue and need to wash off
You're right... it does seem like you would need to! Believe me, it is a very common assumption.

Thanks for the order! Please let me know (either here or PM/email) if you have any other questions. I'm here to help!

-Heather
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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Ken, I think Flatulance is the word you're looking for.
Not to worry - this too shall pass...

Actually I'm waiting for warmer weather. I placed my order with Heather last month while the DC area was in a mild weather mode. I received my "stuff" and we immediately go into winter mode. Oh well - guess that's why we look forward to Spring.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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If you use clay properly, all the bonded contaminants you pick up will be in the clay and not on the paint. The clay residue that remains is really just the quick detailer lube and this can be wiped off. In fact, I have a couple of different approaches.

As I clay each section and finish, I use one more spritz of quick detailer and wipe off all the residue. Now there is nothing to wash off. And I can move on to the next panel.

The other approach is to leave the milky residue on the paint after you clay the entire car. Now when I go to polish the paint, the residue will come off during that polish process and it's a sort of marker where if there are any clay residue left behind, it means I forgot to polish it. This ensures I don't leave any parts untouched.

re: Chi Town and Classes
Yes, coming to a town near you!!!

re: Accessories
I'll be posting them in the NAM store today. I still have to make up some instructions and run some more batches off today before I can ship them. I will post in the vendor announcement area on this.


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You're right... it does seem like you would need to! Believe me, it is a very common assumption.

Thanks for the order! Please let me know (either here or PM/email) if you have any other questions. I'm here to help!

-Heather
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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Well as just some of the flatulance talking, I will say that I always wash after doing clay. Why? Because it makes me feel good, that's why.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 12:44 PM
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^^Well thats a good enough reason I would say!^^
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Detailers Paradise
Please let me know (either here or PM/email) if you have any other questions. I'm here to help!

-Heather
OK, since you asked so nicely, I would feel bad if I did help you out

Any tips on hand applying Epic? I'm afraid of my new but VERY inexpensive Coleman orbital polisher (gift) and given the small size of the MINI I figure it should take that long to try by hand the first time. Best type of applicator, amount of pressure, whatever...I'm just a sponge soaking in the wisdom

Waxing a car was a self-taught skill, and based on my historical performance, I should get out of that habit
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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Apply thin. Thats all you really need. By then all of your work will be done, and you won't need to apply any pressure.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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When doing Zaino and now Epic by hand I used this:

I still use them when I don't want to drag out my PC. Here a Link to Autopia where I got it from: LINK

Oh and this one is nice too. A bit firmer if you are using Scratch-X or need some pad strength:
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Sin MINI
Any tips on hand applying Epic? I'm afraid of my new but VERY inexpensive Coleman orbital polisher (gift) and given the small size of the MINI I figure it should take that long to try by hand the first time. Best type of applicator, amount of pressure, whatever...I'm just a sponge soaking in the wisdom
I personally wouldn't bother with the Coleman polisher on a small car. For most, it's more work to get it out and use it than it is an advantage. Epic is very easily applied by hand and many of our customers use it this way regularly.

As the others have mostly already covered, keep these tips in mind:
  • Apply Epic very thin. You will only need about 1 oz (~2 tablespoons or 1 shot glass) for the entire MINI. Use more than that and Epic will become difficult to buff off, your bonding could be negatively impacted, and you will go through the product more quickly than you need to. I always tell people that if it seems downright strange with the small amount you're using, then you're probably right on! It's wierd to adjust to the the thin application for the first or so times.
  • Apply Epic all over the entire car, avoiding your plastic/rubber trim.
  • Allow Epic to dry for 30-45 minutes, longer if possible. As I mentioned before, if it's a little cold and/or humid, the drying takes longer so I always err on the long side. I usually aim for an hour or so.
  • Buff off and you're done!
MiniMaybee had some good applicator suggestions. You can really use whatever is comfortable in your hand. Here are some other possible hand applicators: a microfiber cloth, a microfiber-covered sponge, a closed-cell sponge (the kind where you can't see the big holes all over it), etc, etc. Some applicators waste a little more product than others, but other than that I'd use whatever is comfortable for you.

-Heather
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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well, i'm applying by hand (don't have a RO yet), and I really like the Paradise Skinny because it is thin, so I feel more in touch with the surface and how much I'm putting on and easy to hold.

and yes, I second mcdbrendan's comment... apply thin. DP sent me a smal plastic bottle (Plastic Bottles-Spout Top) and said to fill it halfway with Epic and that would be enough for the MINI. I couldn't believe it, but it was about right.

then, although other times have been talked about, I would let it sit for at least 1 hour before buffing off.

p.s. - i'm repeating myself, I think, but stay away from the black trim. either be very careful or tape it off. however, know that if you get any wax on there (you should wipe it off with a wet MF if you can), you can get the white streaks that may show up a day or so later off with alcohol. another trick mentioned on here is to apply Prima Nero first to the black trim which makes it easier to get any Epic off.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Detailers Paradise
... 1 shot glass ...
and here I've been mixing it in a highball glass. A little tonic, a twist of lime ... yum.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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I'd love to say this is my last question, but all y'all know better

Any suggestions for brake dust on the wheels? With a previous vehicle we had a long stretch of bad weather keeping us away from the car wash, and when we finally got there the brake dust was too entrenched to remove completely. Wheels look like crap now.
 
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