WOW - disappointing!
you purchased 3 products but you didn't buy it.
you have a lexus yet you thought a $24 bottle that will last you a
very long time (like years) was too expensive?
you don't remember you shopped at DP where a salesperson (most likely
a nice lady by the name of Heather) helped you.
werd...
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Based on Pete's past contributions, I'd say he likes to stir up controversy.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=135851
Btw, he doesn't just have a Lexus and a MINI, he's got a Z3 as well, so it's not like he doesn't have money to buy the BW. I too am confused about what 3 products he bought. I mean B2B and Wizards combined should have cost about $20.
Ken remember he said "I call em as I see em."
IMO, he either needs to see an eye doctor or he's blind because he tends to say conflicting things and if he's calling them as he sees them, well ......
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=135851
Btw, he doesn't just have a Lexus and a MINI, he's got a Z3 as well, so it's not like he doesn't have money to buy the BW. I too am confused about what 3 products he bought. I mean B2B and Wizards combined should have cost about $20.
Ken remember he said "I call em as I see em."
IMO, he either needs to see an eye doctor or he's blind because he tends to say conflicting things and if he's calling them as he sees them, well ......
you purchased 3 products but you didn't buy it.
you have a lexus yet you thought a $24 bottle that will last you a
very long time (like years) was too expensive?
you don't remember you shopped at DP where a salesperson (most likely
a nice lady by the name of Heather) helped you.
werd...
you have a lexus yet you thought a $24 bottle that will last you a
very long time (like years) was too expensive?
you don't remember you shopped at DP where a salesperson (most likely
a nice lady by the name of Heather) helped you.
werd...
This has been a most interesting thread. There is a funny thing I've discovered about people who don't like BW (and have the know it all attitude).
They usually fit the following
1.) People who think they know everything so they don't read the instructions.
2.) People who don't accept advice because they know everything
3.) People who try to justify their credibility because they are yada yada yada and unfortunately still don't know anything.
4.) People who just like to be trolls.....
They usually fit the following
1.) People who think they know everything so they don't read the instructions.
2.) People who don't accept advice because they know everything
3.) People who try to justify their credibility because they are yada yada yada and unfortunately still don't know anything.
4.) People who just like to be trolls.....
Yesterday - my 4th or 5th BW experience - was just the same as all the others. Used very very sparingly, took maybe 5 minutes tops, trim looks great and I won't have to do it again until LEAST August.
I'm going with "operator error"...
BW FTW
b2b. be kinda funny if he said orange/red.
I'm terribly ashamed. Is that better than my apology to the OP? Does that make all things right with the karmic world?
I think this has been gone over enough. Let's move on.
Looking at the body of your contributions here on NAM, I think you need to back down a bit. Just a little friendly advise.
I think this has been gone over enough. Let's move on.
Looking at the body of your contributions here on NAM, I think you need to back down a bit. Just a little friendly advise.
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From: West Trenton, NJ
Well, I didn't have alcohol handy to mix w/ water for surface prep ... and couldn't bring myself to use Grey Goose ... ;-)
but it should not be in any "detailer's" cart.
If I am gonna go cheap it will be Absolut 
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As for the instructions, techniques evolve over time. Like the suggestion to use a pea sized amount on the bottle--and later realized through customer suggestions that sesame seed sized is better. I was also suggesting people to use BW before washing the car BEFORE I was providing the Trim Masking cards
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Yeah they are kind of hit and miss. They are aware of the problem. Maybe you should send them an email and ask--if I just send you one, that won't help them fix the problem. =)
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Yeah, i figured I just got a bottle from a batch that was prior to the included trim card. Autogeek has never failed me before so I'm not too worried about it. I assume just something like a credit card would work?
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From: Merrick, NY
Hi all I am back 
Black wow lasted 4 months in NY weather without a garage. The next best was Griot's white dressing stuff. that lasted 1 month. So, it lasted 3 months longer than the next best thing. I dont care if it lasts 1 month really. I just want it to look good for the whole month. 303 doesnt look pretty, and it did not last as long as people claim. Inside, 303 is supreme. I just cant believe how long it stays dark and with a nice low sheen, but it has a sheen. I dont like all dull stuff nor the gloss.
Black wow looks deeper and removes wax. I no longer have to use rubber cleaner to get off my excess wax or whatever else has collected there. This might seem like a tiny perk, but it is not. You cannot use a degreaser liquid with a coat of wax on the car. Any drop removes the wax. So, you need a degreaser if you wax the car and you mess the rubber..... paradox! Yes indeed folks. I dont tape, I just cant be bothered yet in life to do that. You should black wow and then let it sit there. I used a cotton towel/diaper thing to wipe off the excess after I was sure it soaked in. I used to much, yes, I always do. The next wash the rest of it comes off for a smooth, clean finish. It punches out the black colour in a major way.
Black wow lasted 4 months in NY weather without a garage. The next best was Griot's white dressing stuff. that lasted 1 month. So, it lasted 3 months longer than the next best thing. I dont care if it lasts 1 month really. I just want it to look good for the whole month. 303 doesnt look pretty, and it did not last as long as people claim. Inside, 303 is supreme. I just cant believe how long it stays dark and with a nice low sheen, but it has a sheen. I dont like all dull stuff nor the gloss.
Black wow looks deeper and removes wax. I no longer have to use rubber cleaner to get off my excess wax or whatever else has collected there. This might seem like a tiny perk, but it is not. You cannot use a degreaser liquid with a coat of wax on the car. Any drop removes the wax. So, you need a degreaser if you wax the car and you mess the rubber..... paradox! Yes indeed folks. I dont tape, I just cant be bothered yet in life to do that. You should black wow and then let it sit there. I used a cotton towel/diaper thing to wipe off the excess after I was sure it soaked in. I used to much, yes, I always do. The next wash the rest of it comes off for a smooth, clean finish. It punches out the black colour in a major way.
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From: Milford Mass
I have not read through this whole thread, I would just like to say that I had always used VinylX on my trim and it would look great..nice and clean and black and new....but for maybe a week or until the first washing. I tried BW about 5 -6 weeks ago for the first and only time.....the trim continues to look nice clean black and new . Very impressed
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