silicone or no silicone
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silicone or no silicone
I have been using 303 aerospace protectant for sometime. It looks good when applied to exterior black trim, but only for a short time.
303 and Griots products state clearly that the product does not contain Waxes or Silicon oils. After seeing this many times, I assume that Silicone is a bad thing.
Now, looking at Black WOW, I see it is a silicon based cleaner / dressing.
So, what's the story on Silicon? Is it good for my trim or not?
303 and Griots products state clearly that the product does not contain Waxes or Silicon oils. After seeing this many times, I assume that Silicone is a bad thing.
Now, looking at Black WOW, I see it is a silicon based cleaner / dressing.
So, what's the story on Silicon? Is it good for my trim or not?
Last edited by rockridge; 10-30-2007 at 06:47 PM. Reason: spelling
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There is substantial reading on silicones available on the internet. Basically it all comes down to marketing.
In the skin care industry, marketers have convinced people that preservatives are bad, so marketers try to promote preservative free products--however it's very difficult to create truly preservative free products without sacrificing quality.
Silicone by itself is not bad. There are thousands of applications of silicone for everything from breast implants, to skin care to automotive and industrial use. In the automotive industry, many many moons ago, people shuddered at the use of silicones in products because they made painting difficult--however, today that's all nonsense as there are many products that can be used to strip everything including silicones off the car before repainting.
Look at all the plastic trim out there that hasn't been treated with a silicone based dressing--it doesn't take long for them to look weathered and worn. Combine that with wax and polish residue, and it's a losing battle using most off the shelf products. But just remember that not all silicones are created equal.
From DowCorning Website:
The many categories that use silicones
Antiperspirant and deodorant sticks, gels, and roll-on products
Skin care lotions and creams
Lip products
Hair care products
Textile treatments
Coatings
Leather/synthetic leather treatment
Polishes
Plastics modification
also
Silicones are highly valued materials because they have a combination of physical properties not found in other polymers. They have outstanding heat stability and can be used in applications where organic materials would melt or decompose. Many silicones seem to be impervious to the effects of aging, weather, sunlight, moisture, heat, cold, and some chemical assaults. Some silicones are used to stick, bond, or couple things together – a glue, if you please.
In the skin care industry, marketers have convinced people that preservatives are bad, so marketers try to promote preservative free products--however it's very difficult to create truly preservative free products without sacrificing quality.
Silicone by itself is not bad. There are thousands of applications of silicone for everything from breast implants, to skin care to automotive and industrial use. In the automotive industry, many many moons ago, people shuddered at the use of silicones in products because they made painting difficult--however, today that's all nonsense as there are many products that can be used to strip everything including silicones off the car before repainting.
Look at all the plastic trim out there that hasn't been treated with a silicone based dressing--it doesn't take long for them to look weathered and worn. Combine that with wax and polish residue, and it's a losing battle using most off the shelf products. But just remember that not all silicones are created equal.
From DowCorning Website:
The many categories that use silicones
Antiperspirant and deodorant sticks, gels, and roll-on products
Skin care lotions and creams
Lip products
Hair care products
Textile treatments
Coatings
Leather/synthetic leather treatment
Polishes
Plastics modification
also
Silicones are highly valued materials because they have a combination of physical properties not found in other polymers. They have outstanding heat stability and can be used in applications where organic materials would melt or decompose. Many silicones seem to be impervious to the effects of aging, weather, sunlight, moisture, heat, cold, and some chemical assaults. Some silicones are used to stick, bond, or couple things together – a glue, if you please.
I have been using 303 aerospace protectant for sometime. It looks good when applied to exterior black trim, but only for a short time.
303 and Griots products state clearly that the product does not contain Waxes or Silicon oils. After seeing this many times, I assume that Silicone is a bad thing.
Now, looking at Black WOW, I see it is a silicon based cleaner / dressing.
So, what's the story on Silicon? Is it good for my trim or not?
303 and Griots products state clearly that the product does not contain Waxes or Silicon oils. After seeing this many times, I assume that Silicone is a bad thing.
Now, looking at Black WOW, I see it is a silicon based cleaner / dressing.
So, what's the story on Silicon? Is it good for my trim or not?
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I have been using 303 aerospace protectant for sometime. It looks good when applied to exterior black trim, but only for a short time.
303 and Griots products state clearly that the product does not contain Waxes or Silicon oils. After seeing this many times, I assume that Silicone is a bad thing.
Now, looking at Black WOW, I see it is a silicon based cleaner / dressing.
So, what's the story on Silicon? Is it good for my trim or not?
303 and Griots products state clearly that the product does not contain Waxes or Silicon oils. After seeing this many times, I assume that Silicone is a bad thing.
Now, looking at Black WOW, I see it is a silicon based cleaner / dressing.
So, what's the story on Silicon? Is it good for my trim or not?
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I would rather use Black WOW every 4 months and use Wizards Black Renew for interim cleaning. Nothing on the market can match the restorative power of Black WOW and nothing can even come close to its durability.
Spread it thin people, spread it thin. If it is slimy, gooey or sticky when you're done - you've put too much on.
Spread it thin people, spread it thin. If it is slimy, gooey or sticky when you're done - you've put too much on.
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That's correct. Think about it from the manufacturers point of view. They/we are in the business of selling product. We want you to use up the products quickly so you will buy more!! It would be suicide for any major manufacturer that sells through Target, Walmart, etc.. where if the products aren't flying off the shelves weekly, they get returned back to the manufacturer--to sell a product that is only purchased once a year.
I've actually considered selling single application packets like the 303 packets. Can you imagine opening up the foil pack and seeing a sesame sized drop inside???
For me, I'd rather create one superior product, and get it into the hands of EVERY car enthusiast out there--even if they only own one bottle, for a small guy like me, that's still a lot of product out there where I'm not under pressure to sell quickly.
But like I said earlier, not all silicones are the same. Most manufacturers use industrial grade stuff that's cheaper in its raw form because it's less pure, and more diluted. BW uses super concentrated FDA approved silicones that are expensive but perform better than anything else.
Richard
I've actually considered selling single application packets like the 303 packets. Can you imagine opening up the foil pack and seeing a sesame sized drop inside???
For me, I'd rather create one superior product, and get it into the hands of EVERY car enthusiast out there--even if they only own one bottle, for a small guy like me, that's still a lot of product out there where I'm not under pressure to sell quickly.
But like I said earlier, not all silicones are the same. Most manufacturers use industrial grade stuff that's cheaper in its raw form because it's less pure, and more diluted. BW uses super concentrated FDA approved silicones that are expensive but perform better than anything else.
Richard
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