5 speed to 6 speed swap?
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5 speed to 6 speed swap?
the synchros going into 2nd in my 2004 mini cooper are wareing out and i was wondering if instead of spending the ??? amount of money fixing the current transmission is even worth it or should i try a 6 speed swap are the 6 speed mini cooper S transmissions avaleable and is the bolt pattern on the block the same? has anyone attemted this? and does anyone have the results or any information on it? thanks later for now im just gonna stay with 1st skip 2nd and go staret to 3rd
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the synchros going into 2nd in my 2004 mini cooper are wareing out and i was wondering if instead of spending the ??? amount of money fixing the current transmission is even worth it or should i try a 6 speed swap are the 6 speed mini cooper S transmissions avaleable and is the bolt pattern on the block the same? has anyone attemted this? and does anyone have the results or any information on it? thanks later for now im just gonna stay with 1st skip 2nd and go staret to 3rd
the input and out put shafts are differnt... also due to gearing... you are probably better off sticking with the cooper tranny. the 2002-2004 s trannys have too tall of gearing and you would greatly reduce performance
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That's not the upgraded Midlands box... The upgraded Midlands box can only be gotten from MINIMania UK...
http://www.minimaniauk.co.uk/web/Ite.../InvDetail.cfm
http://www.minimaniauk.co.uk/web/Ite.../InvDetail.cfm
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Txwerks has given you our only sensible option,i think i read somewhere that Minimania was having problems getting a supply of boxes to rebuild,so you could ask them to sell the parts and have it rebuilt if there's a supply problem.I have done buisness with them before and find them very helpful.
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So if this swap has been done did they lose any performance from the different ratio's? I would love to have a tranny that I wouldn't have to worry about blowing in my quest for performance
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i can't find the midlands trany anywhere they seem to of stoped makeing it. and the link to the one in the uk seems to be different from the one in the usa. does anyone have any links to like parts pages where i can buy stronger gears and syncros so i can rebiuld the trany myself? because i don't have deep enough pockets to just keep replaceing transmissons that can't suport the power i throw at them. and i was reading about someone on this forum trying to swap a srt-4 engine into a mini could you swap in a different type of transmisson?
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I'm just not sure why you'd want the Getrag 6's gearing... The Midlands and Getrag 5 are much more suited to the Cooper's powerband. It's one reason there's not as much of a difference between the Cooper and S on the track as people think there might be (and especially not at the autocross)...
Now, if you change the final drive on the Getrag 6, or went with close ratio gearset, I could see doing the swap - but that would add a LOT of cost in both parts and labor.
Now, if you change the final drive on the Getrag 6, or went with close ratio gearset, I could see doing the swap - but that would add a LOT of cost in both parts and labor.
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I'm just not sure why you'd want the Getrag 6's gearing... The Midlands and Getrag 5 are much more suited to the Cooper's powerband. It's one reason there's not as much of a difference between the Cooper and S on the track as people think there might be (and especially not at the autocross)...
Now, if you change the final drive on the Getrag 6, or went with close ratio gearset, I could see doing the swap - but that would add a LOT of cost in both parts and labor.
Now, if you change the final drive on the Getrag 6, or went with close ratio gearset, I could see doing the swap - but that would add a LOT of cost in both parts and labor.
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Looks like a market opportunity to me. Some transmission specialist here in the USA needs to start remanufacturing Midlands. There are thousands of earlier Coopers that will be getting older, and we're bound to be seeing more failures. Any one know of a good transmission reman shop that would be interested in developing a market niche?
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