R56 Need help turbo died
#1
Need help turbo died
Hi I have tried the search feature and I can't find the help I need. I have the 1/2 power light and the car drives like a turd 2009 r56.
Took it in the the mechanic after I re-installed the DOS CIA that had come loose hoping it was an air leak that I could not see turns out I need a new turbo.
He tells me there is a TSB that the dealer should have done but did not and that I should take it to mini and have them fix the turbo on there dime? Any ideas warranty is expired anyone think that they will cover the replacement? My mechanic is someone I trust and he said its a $3400.00 job.
If the dealer will not fix it on their dime is it something an average garage mechanic can do?
Thanks
Sean
Took it in the the mechanic after I re-installed the DOS CIA that had come loose hoping it was an air leak that I could not see turns out I need a new turbo.
He tells me there is a TSB that the dealer should have done but did not and that I should take it to mini and have them fix the turbo on there dime? Any ideas warranty is expired anyone think that they will cover the replacement? My mechanic is someone I trust and he said its a $3400.00 job.
If the dealer will not fix it on their dime is it something an average garage mechanic can do?
Thanks
Sean
#3
You can find a low mileage turbo or even a JCW for $500 and a new FrankenTurbo for $1000. If a mechanic has a powerful high torque impact wrench, it should be about $400-$550 in labor. The turbo and manifold can be removed and replaced with out putting the car into Service Mode (removing the entire front clip)
You should also replace the turbo oil lines, and gaskets.
You should also replace the turbo oil lines, and gaskets.
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2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
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#5
You can find a low mileage turbo or even a JCW for $500 and a new FrankenTurbo for $1000. If a mechanic has a powerful high torque impact wrench, it should be about $400-$550 in labor. The turbo and manifold can be removed and replaced with out putting the car into Service Mode (removing the entire front clip)
You should also replace the turbo oil lines, and gaskets.
You should also replace the turbo oil lines, and gaskets.
I have a good impact wrench, and found a used turbo for 400.00 is this a job I can do myself? ( I'm an average home mechanic)
Thanks again
Sean
#6
We have the regular turbo here 11657600890 ( Cooper S version ). Make sure you get the right gasket. Currently around ~ 792.00 . There is the other hardware if you need it. Turbo is up front on the R56 so its not too hard to reach.
2009 R56 Cooper S
http://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2009-Cooper-R56-S-Coupe-L4_1.6L_N14B16A/Engine/Turbocharger/
Did the aftermarket intake come loose and suck something in ? What TSB ? Turbo Oil lines ? Turbo oil line heat shield.
Thanks
2009 R56 Cooper S
http://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2009-Cooper-R56-S-Coupe-L4_1.6L_N14B16A/Engine/Turbocharger/
Did the aftermarket intake come loose and suck something in ? What TSB ? Turbo Oil lines ? Turbo oil line heat shield.
Thanks
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We have the regular turbo here 11657600890 ( Cooper S version ). Make sure you get the right gasket. Currently around ~ 792.00 . There is the other hardware if you need it. Turbo is up front on the R56 so its not too hard to reach.
2009 R56 Cooper S
http://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2009-Cooper-R56-S-Coupe-L4_1.6L_N14B16A/Engine/Turbocharger/
Did the aftermarket intake come loose and suck something in ? What TSB ? Turbo Oil lines ? Turbo oil line heat shield.
Thanks
2009 R56 Cooper S
http://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2009-Cooper-R56-S-Coupe-L4_1.6L_N14B16A/Engine/Turbocharger/
Did the aftermarket intake come loose and suck something in ? What TSB ? Turbo Oil lines ? Turbo oil line heat shield.
Thanks
Thank you
I think the TSB was for the heat shield because it's not on the car. The intake came loose but not off, I don't think it sucked up anything only driven 1/4 mile after I heard the change in the sound it makes. The mechanic said that there was too much play inside the turbo and it was not building any boost.
Thanks again Sean
#9
You are welcome.
Ok, i was checking the TSB for the heat shield is here. 11657634747 And the pics where it goes.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ld-recall.html
And make sure you get new oil lines if you go with the stock unit. Its a good thing to replace while you have it off.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-oil-line.html
Thanks
Ok, i was checking the TSB for the heat shield is here. 11657634747 And the pics where it goes.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ld-recall.html
And make sure you get new oil lines if you go with the stock unit. Its a good thing to replace while you have it off.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-oil-line.html
Thanks
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#10
You are welcome.
Ok, i was checking the TSB for the heat shield is here. 11657634747 And the pics where it goes.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ld-recall.html
And make sure you get new oil lines if you go with the stock unit. Its a good thing to replace while you have it off.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-oil-line.html
Thanks
Ok, i was checking the TSB for the heat shield is here. 11657634747 And the pics where it goes.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ld-recall.html
And make sure you get new oil lines if you go with the stock unit. Its a good thing to replace while you have it off.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-oil-line.html
Thanks
Thank you
Yes that is what he was talking about. I have an appointment at the dealer tomorrow, guess I will find out what mini is willing to do...
If they are not willing to fix it I'm going to try and do it myself.
Is taking off the old in installing a new turbo very difficult?
#11
You are welcome.
Ok, i was checking the TSB for the heat shield is here. 11657634747 And the pics where it goes.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ld-recall.html
And make sure you get new oil lines if you go with the stock unit. Its a good thing to replace while you have it off.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-oil-line.html
Thanks
Ok, i was checking the TSB for the heat shield is here. 11657634747 And the pics where it goes.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ld-recall.html
And make sure you get new oil lines if you go with the stock unit. Its a good thing to replace while you have it off.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-oil-line.html
Thanks
Thank you
Yes that is what he was talking about. I have an appointment at the dealer tomorrow, guess I will find out what mini is willing to do...
If they are not willing to fix it I'm going to try and do it myself.
Is taking off the old and installing a new turbo very difficult?
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It's not an impossible job to replace the turbo. In order to get the turbo off you need to remove the exhaust manifold from the engine. The bolts on the turbo face the manifold so it is most difficult to get to the nuts to remove the turbo.
When I did mine, I ordered new mounting studs, nuts, gaskets, etc. I figured it was just better safe than sorry.
Good luck with the dealer, but I would be flat out shocked if they covered any of the turbo. Maybe they will cover the turbo oil line heat shield because of the TSB.
Lastly, do you know the condition of the used turbo. Low miles, etc. They can fail for various reasons so it may not be a good deal just because it is cheap. Check out http://www.jmturbocoopers.com/. They have rebuilds and aftermarkets at great prices. You can also send yours to them for a rebuild pretty cheap and they warrant their work.
Good luck
When I did mine, I ordered new mounting studs, nuts, gaskets, etc. I figured it was just better safe than sorry.
Good luck with the dealer, but I would be flat out shocked if they covered any of the turbo. Maybe they will cover the turbo oil line heat shield because of the TSB.
Lastly, do you know the condition of the used turbo. Low miles, etc. They can fail for various reasons so it may not be a good deal just because it is cheap. Check out http://www.jmturbocoopers.com/. They have rebuilds and aftermarkets at great prices. You can also send yours to them for a rebuild pretty cheap and they warrant their work.
Good luck
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Mine is Adorable because it's 2mm bigger!!
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2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
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Too bad you're not closer we do the whole job about $1500.
We have the turbo in stock as we've been doing about one a month.
http://www.waymotorworks.com/stock-c...8-r59-r60.html
We have the turbo in stock as we've been doing about one a month.
http://www.waymotorworks.com/stock-c...8-r59-r60.html
#18
My clubbie had 50,090 miles when turbo froze up. Yup 90 miles out of warranty. Dealer did the oil line and turbo for $1,800. A little above Ways price but that was when I lived in Mini hell. Yes Mississippi, with zero dealers had to drive to Birmingham. It was also when I saw them changing a clutch on a countryman. That makes a turbo change look like trimming a hang nail compared to open heart surgery.
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Its not cute .. its sporty
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N14 JCW Turbo are here: 11657583149
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/SiteSearch/11657583149/
They might be a little harder to find. I would check the DV and other items before just going to a turbo. The diaphragms on the older one could be shot.
11657593273 Diverter Valve
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/SiteSearch/11657593273/
Thanks
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/SiteSearch/11657583149/
They might be a little harder to find. I would check the DV and other items before just going to a turbo. The diaphragms on the older one could be shot.
11657593273 Diverter Valve
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/SiteSearch/11657593273/
Thanks
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#23
I have the same light and was informed it could be a turbo related problem. My car however does not drive like a turd and has more or less the same power as before. Hopefully its just the diverter valve or boost pressure sensor. Is ebay my best bet for a lightly used JCW turbo?