BBS LM Replicas???
**UPDATE**
Well I finally heard back from Frank at GT Werks. He is willing to do a limited run but I would need to set up a group buy because they have to order a minimum of 10 sets from the factory. They only have 18x8.5 available but it will be in a 4x100 bolt pattern. In the e-mail I sent him I said the offset needed to work on a MINI, something from an et37 to et45, so I'm guessing we can choose the offset.
With the 8.5in wide wheel I think we'd need something a little smaller than the usual et45. I think an et37 would be far enough out to clear the inside but not too far out to rub on the fenders. A 215/35/18 would look sweet on the 8.5in wide wheel. This is definitely better news than ALT, PLUS the GT Werks wheels look better and closer to the real thing. I for one can't buy wheels right now, but if there is interest I will gladly setup the group buy.
Well I finally heard back from Frank at GT Werks. He is willing to do a limited run but I would need to set up a group buy because they have to order a minimum of 10 sets from the factory. They only have 18x8.5 available but it will be in a 4x100 bolt pattern. In the e-mail I sent him I said the offset needed to work on a MINI, something from an et37 to et45, so I'm guessing we can choose the offset.
With the 8.5in wide wheel I think we'd need something a little smaller than the usual et45. I think an et37 would be far enough out to clear the inside but not too far out to rub on the fenders. A 215/35/18 would look sweet on the 8.5in wide wheel. This is definitely better news than ALT, PLUS the GT Werks wheels look better and closer to the real thing. I for one can't buy wheels right now, but if there is interest I will gladly setup the group buy.
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18x8.5 et 37 wont work......that will poke A LOT for an 18. You would rub if you even tried lowering the car.
EDIT: I cant say it wont work.....but with the nature of 18s being huge, poke is a little hard to pull off. You could run 8.5 et37 if it was on a 17" wheel....but the 18s will cause a bit of problem. And there isnt MUCH more room to run a higher et than 37 as you risk rubbing on the inside. According to my calculations, going any higher in the offset would cause rubbing on the inside if they arent so already. One of my friends reported VERY close to rubbing on the inside with a 9 inch wide wheel with et25......and according to the math, you have 6mm less clearance on the inside than he did.
EDIT: I cant say it wont work.....but with the nature of 18s being huge, poke is a little hard to pull off. You could run 8.5 et37 if it was on a 17" wheel....but the 18s will cause a bit of problem. And there isnt MUCH more room to run a higher et than 37 as you risk rubbing on the inside. According to my calculations, going any higher in the offset would cause rubbing on the inside if they arent so already. One of my friends reported VERY close to rubbing on the inside with a 9 inch wide wheel with et25......and according to the math, you have 6mm less clearance on the inside than he did.
Last edited by Rally@StanceDesign; Apr 30, 2007 at 08:19 PM.
18x8.5 et 37 wont work......that will poke A LOT for an 18. You would rub if you even tried lowering the car.
EDIT: I cant say it wont work.....but with the nature of 18s being huge, poke is a little hard to pull off. You could run 8.5 et37 if it was on a 17" wheel....but the 18s will cause a bit of problem. And there isnt MUCH more room to run a higher et than 37 as you risk rubbing on the inside. According to my calculations, going any higher in the offset would cause rubbing on the inside if they arent so already. One of my friends reported VERY close to rubbing on the inside with a 9 inch wide wheel with et25......and according to the math, you have 6mm less clearance on the inside than he did.
EDIT: I cant say it wont work.....but with the nature of 18s being huge, poke is a little hard to pull off. You could run 8.5 et37 if it was on a 17" wheel....but the 18s will cause a bit of problem. And there isnt MUCH more room to run a higher et than 37 as you risk rubbing on the inside. According to my calculations, going any higher in the offset would cause rubbing on the inside if they arent so already. One of my friends reported VERY close to rubbing on the inside with a 9 inch wide wheel with et25......and according to the math, you have 6mm less clearance on the inside than he did.
The question then, is would you rub on the outside? Also, your friend ran that on a 17" dia wheel I suppose? What tire size did he run? Bottom line though, measure all you want, you won't know for sure until someone tries it. Just gotta measure enough to lower the chance of failure lolol
EDIT: You could even run a 205/35/18, stretch the tire a bit. Roll the fender liner on the outside so you get a bit more clearance. IDK, I'm skeptical about the whole thing but I think it could work with an et37, 205/35/18 tire size, and rolling of the fender liner.
Last edited by Wake|MCS; Apr 30, 2007 at 08:38 PM.
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Hmm thats interesting and also a good point of reference. Here's my math. If your friend reports close to rubbing (but no rubbing, right?) with an et25 on a 9" wide wheel. That would be the same as running an et38 on an 8.5" wide wheel. Well, 37.7 to be exact but thats not possible so et38 it is. Run et37 and you have 1mm more clearance on the inside than the 9" wide wheel.
The question then, is would you rub on the outside? Also, your friend ran that on a 17" dia wheel I suppose? What tire size did he run? Bottom line though, measure all you want, you won't know for sure until someone tries it. Just gotta measure enough to lower the chance of failure lolol
EDIT: You could even run a 205/35/18, stretch the tire a bit. Roll the fender liner on the outside so you get a bit more clearance. IDK, I'm skeptical about the whole thing but I think it could work with an et37, 205/35/18 tire size, and rolling of the fender liner.
The question then, is would you rub on the outside? Also, your friend ran that on a 17" dia wheel I suppose? What tire size did he run? Bottom line though, measure all you want, you won't know for sure until someone tries it. Just gotta measure enough to lower the chance of failure lolol
EDIT: You could even run a 205/35/18, stretch the tire a bit. Roll the fender liner on the outside so you get a bit more clearance. IDK, I'm skeptical about the whole thing but I think it could work with an et37, 205/35/18 tire size, and rolling of the fender liner.
He ran stretched tires....but he said he came close to rubbing the wheel on the subframe.
this makes things easier: http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp
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I know some kids like that stretched look but what happens when he tries to take a corner at any more than 10 mph ?
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And onto the second point you made. Lots of kids like it, and lots of adults like it. And in terms of the speed.....it will be great.
These cars fly into corners at speeds in excess of 80mph at somepoints and throw the car sideways at speeds that you will never see on the street unless you are being dumb and exceeding the speed limit and happen to spin the car. And they run stretched tires.
Is it the best performance for your car? No, but it still offers a ton of grip and can still be fun in the twisties. Is it for looks? Heck yes. Do they fit? Sure they do, they were meant to be that size.Any larger and they would look bad and would rub. Are they for everyone? No, of course not, nothing in this world is. But most of that comes from peoples lack of knowledge concerning the subject. They assume a lot of things and make judgements accordingly. But that doesnt really bother me much....
Haha nice post Rally. IDK I just figured half an inch smaller wheel would mean you could move the wheel half an inch towards the inside and be within the same clearance as the 9inch wheel no??? According to the wheel offset calculator which knows better than me. If this were to work at all it would be with an et30, yielding 1mm more clearance on the inside and bringing the out position of the wheel in 11mm. Even then its a stretch, no pun intended lol, to get these wheels to fit...
I'm with you on the whole most tires not fitting the wheels right here on NAM. Most the tires are WAY too big and fat... YUCK lol..
I'm with you on the whole most tires not fitting the wheels right here on NAM. Most the tires are WAY too big and fat... YUCK lol..
Last edited by Wake|MCS; May 1, 2007 at 04:59 PM.
Hmm just thought of something. I have an 18x8 RacingHart wheel at the shop with some 225/35 rubber on it. Gonna slap that on there and see the clearance I have on the inside and outside. Dropped an inch on H-Sports, maybe we can get more of an idea on if this would work at all..
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