Gauging interest - M14 to M12 stud conversion
Thanks for your reply on these. Do you have any idea of price yet. Hate to be a pain but do you know when you'll know about the 14m open ended lugs.
Thanks again for jumping on this with results while others are still talking.
Thanks again for jumping on this with results while others are still talking.
We'll have M14/M12 conversion studs AND straight M14 studs in hand in 3-4 weeks... Made in the USA, properly rolled threads, highest quality materials...
Stud kits will ship with a vial of Loctite. Install will be via a 6mm allen head that's broach cut into the end. There will also be a 3mm bullet nose on the end to help prevent cross-threading of lugnuts. Finish is black on the studs...
The M14/M12 studs feature an M14x1.25 threaded end for the hub, a nice shoulder to keep them snug (before the knurl) and then neck down to M12x1.5.
The M14 straight studs feature an M14x1.25 threaded end for the hub, a knurl, and then an M14x1.5 on the outside - converting from 1.25 to 1.5 will allow you to choose from a bunch of different M14x1.5!
For the M12x1.5 setup, we'll also offer super lightweight, tuner style, open ended, racing lug nuts. These are flippin' beautiful. We're checking to see if the supplier would like to make us some in M14x1.5, too. Finish will be black...
Stud kits will ship with a vial of Loctite. Install will be via a 6mm allen head that's broach cut into the end. There will also be a 3mm bullet nose on the end to help prevent cross-threading of lugnuts. Finish is black on the studs...
The M14/M12 studs feature an M14x1.25 threaded end for the hub, a nice shoulder to keep them snug (before the knurl) and then neck down to M12x1.5.
The M14 straight studs feature an M14x1.25 threaded end for the hub, a knurl, and then an M14x1.5 on the outside - converting from 1.25 to 1.5 will allow you to choose from a bunch of different M14x1.5!
For the M12x1.5 setup, we'll also offer super lightweight, tuner style, open ended, racing lug nuts. These are flippin' beautiful. We're checking to see if the supplier would like to make us some in M14x1.5, too. Finish will be black...
M14x1.5 open endednuts will need the proper angle.(I'm sure you thought of that.)
I checked my car...I've got the old style 12x1.5 (I had an extra set of studs from Pilo).
I'd love a high quality stud conversion kit with open ended lugs as described. 12x1.5 and black with black lugs. Any plans for something?
I'd love a high quality stud conversion kit with open ended lugs as described. 12x1.5 and black with black lugs. Any plans for something?
Our original supplier for the open ended lugs has said they're not interested in making M14's, so we're searching for another one...
For the M12x1.5, we've got some titanium, open ended tuner style nuts that we're kicking around - ultra trick and super light. Price would be around the $4.50 a pop range, and they'd be black... Is that too outrageous? If so, we're still waiting to hear back from some other suppliers - the holiday shutdown is killing us!
We're still searching for the M14x1.5 open ended tuner nuts...
We're still searching for the M14x1.5 open ended tuner nuts...
For the M12x1.5, we've got some titanium, open ended tuner style nuts that we're kicking around - ultra trick and super light. Price would be around the $4.50 a pop range, and they'd be black... Is that too outrageous? If so, we're still waiting to hear back from some other suppliers - the holiday shutdown is killing us!
We're still searching for the M14x1.5 open ended tuner nuts...
We're still searching for the M14x1.5 open ended tuner nuts...
Can I pre-pay for an order now? I'll take a full set of teh studs and 18-20 nuts (I like to keep a couple of spares around).
So, we went with Kelko Products in Sandusky, OH. Pretty much all they make is studs, and they have excellent equipment.
As soon as I have the nuts secured and on the way (ASAP this week), we'll offer pre-ordering. Thanks for keeping us on our toes!
ARP wouldn't give me or TCE the time of day unless we were talking an insane number of studs...
So, we went with Kelko Products in Sandusky, OH. Pretty much all they make is studs, and they have excellent equipment.
As soon as I have the nuts secured and on the way (ASAP this week), we'll offer pre-ordering. Thanks for keeping us on our toes!
So, we went with Kelko Products in Sandusky, OH. Pretty much all they make is studs, and they have excellent equipment.
As soon as I have the nuts secured and on the way (ASAP this week), we'll offer pre-ordering. Thanks for keeping us on our toes!

For the M12x1.5, we've got some titanium, open ended tuner style nuts that we're kicking around - ultra trick and super light. Price would be around the $4.50 a pop range, and they'd be black... Is that too outrageous? If so, we're still waiting to hear back from some other suppliers - the holiday shutdown is killing us!
We're still searching for the M14x1.5 open ended tuner nuts...
We're still searching for the M14x1.5 open ended tuner nuts...
As of right now, it appears we'll have two options for the M14 to M12 crowd - open-ended, spline drive tuner nuts (if you want something keyed for theft protection and/or made from steel, these are US made, too) and some very swanky, lightweight racing nuts made by one of the more famous JDM houses (T7075 T6, hard anodized, made in Japan). You'll be able to choose when ordering...
The M14x1.25 to M14x1.5 stud crowd will be limited to open-ended, thin wall spline drive tuner nuts (very strong, made in the US)... We're working on options for some lightweight racing nuts for the M14's, too, but those won't be available until later in 1Q07 because we'll have to have them custom made...
The M14x1.25 to M14x1.5 stud crowd will be limited to open-ended, thin wall spline drive tuner nuts (very strong, made in the US)... We're working on options for some lightweight racing nuts for the M14's, too, but those won't be available until later in 1Q07 because we'll have to have them custom made...
After a number of calls to ARP and a couple of faxes followed up by more calls on those faxes....I gave up on ARP and opted to help the buy in on this deal. I don't have time to beg people to take my money.
Thank You...
I am relatively new to this forum, so I think that this would also be my hello post. so, well, HELLO. :-)
Now that is over with, I come from the wheel and tire industry, and sell parts as a living. The fact that Mini went to a 14X1.25 (?!) bolt in the newer cars is a huge pain in the butt. What if you want to run spacers, and simply want to use a longer bolt? No-one makes a 14X1.25 bolt, OE or longer lengths.
This conversion so studs can be used is an awesome idea. Even if you were simply converting from 1.25 to 1.5 pitch!
I do have a suggestion about the pilot hole (the hole in a wheel where the stud goes through) diameter issue, though. I would be comfortable using a larger diameter drill on the aluminum wheel. Just get a drill bit a bit bigger than 14mm, and use a good quality hand drill. Yes, this sounds crude, and looks horrendous when you are doing it, but this is not much less advanced than taking this to a machine shop to have them do it.
Regardless, this is a great idea. Assuming that the cost is reasonable (and it is), I would do this in a heartbeat if I had a late '06 car.
Now that is over with, I come from the wheel and tire industry, and sell parts as a living. The fact that Mini went to a 14X1.25 (?!) bolt in the newer cars is a huge pain in the butt. What if you want to run spacers, and simply want to use a longer bolt? No-one makes a 14X1.25 bolt, OE or longer lengths.
This conversion so studs can be used is an awesome idea. Even if you were simply converting from 1.25 to 1.5 pitch!
I do have a suggestion about the pilot hole (the hole in a wheel where the stud goes through) diameter issue, though. I would be comfortable using a larger diameter drill on the aluminum wheel. Just get a drill bit a bit bigger than 14mm, and use a good quality hand drill. Yes, this sounds crude, and looks horrendous when you are doing it, but this is not much less advanced than taking this to a machine shop to have them do it.
Regardless, this is a great idea. Assuming that the cost is reasonable (and it is), I would do this in a heartbeat if I had a late '06 car.



