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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 11:48 AM
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Vibration with new tires and wheels

Just got installed new Fliks wasps with Falken tires from Edge Racing. I got metal hub centric rings instead of plastic ones that came with the wheels. After installing the wheels there was a noticeable vibration. So I took it to a local tire place (Terry's Tire Town here in NE Ohio) to have it rebalanced. After balancing vibration did not disappear although it's not as noticeable as it was before. Took it again to the same place they say that tires a perfectly balanced! Only thing they could find is that one of the tires has a hump in it and they have moved it to rear. So the question is what else can cause this vibration other than tire balancing?
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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warped brake rotors?

i wanna see these wasps, i'm going to buy Rally's when he gets back in town!


where are you at in NEO?
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 12:17 PM
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With my original 17" S-lites I didn't had any vibration and it would be highly unlikely for brake rotors to warp right when I changed wheels, or not?
Wheels look awesome very similar to r90 and ride is much, much better with non runflat tires! Only thing left is to get "MINI" hubcaps... instead "FLIK".. Will take a pic when I get home.
.. and I'm in Canton
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 12:35 PM
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"hump in tire"?? Sounds like the problem to me. What tires? I feel a little vibration on my aftermarket wheel/tire setup too. I wonder if it is related to the lighter weight?
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 12:41 PM
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"hump in tire" - I was told that this means that one of the tires isn't perfectly round. They moved it to rear which should have removed the vibration if it was the case. I wonder if aftermarket wheels even with good metal hubcentric rings don't fit as good as stock? Highly unlikely...
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 12:42 PM
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You NEED some HUBCENTRIC RINGS (4)
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 12:45 PM
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Read his post, he HAS metal ones already.


Recheck balancing, as my new wheels did that, and I had them rebalanced and it was fixed!


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You NEED some HUBCENTRIC RINGS (4)
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Itsdchz
Recheck balancing, as my new wheels did that, and I had them rebalanced and it was fixed!
Hmm.. they were rebalanced second time (at least I hope they did!) that makes 3 times including edge racing! .. Maybe their balancing equipment not that good and I should take it to different place? Any recommendations?
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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warped brake rotors?

i wanna see these wasps, i'm going to buy Rally's when he gets back in town!


where are you at in NEO?
If the rotors are warped you would only notice vibration when braking. The sounds like a defective tire Or one of the rims is out of round.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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Do they have a hunter machine?
check http://www.gsp9700.com for a shop near you..
(I'm starting to sound like a Hunter sales person)
but they do wonders.

But maybe it's not wheel balance related.. I'd give it a couple hundred miles for the tires to break in.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 02:56 PM
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What in the world do you mean by a "hump" in the tire ? If you have a defective tire, mounting it in a rear position certainly isn't going to improve anything. Before going through any extra fiddling around with all sorts of equipment find out what this "hump" is all about. Tires can be manufactured with defects just like anything else.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 04:01 PM
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I have probably put around 120 -150 miles on this set and it's not getting any better. The place that I took it to balance twice does have the "hunter" machine. I guess I will have to contact Edge Racing and see if they replace that tire with hump, and if this will make a difference
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 04:18 PM
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did they send you the right size hubcentric rings??

the wrong ones would certainly lead to vibration problems.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 04:54 PM
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i have the same wheels and tires. I had the same issues when I first had the wheels and tires installed. However, initially I had the plastic hubcentric rings. I ordered a set of metal ones and the problem went away. What size are the rings that came with your wheels and tires?

Edit: when I first received the Fliks, they had the Falken Ziex 512s on them but I switched the Falkens to the S-lites for my winter set. Just trying to use the Pirellis. I had the Falkens on the Fliks for several thousand miles, though, and I understand your frustration.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 04:57 PM
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Wheels came with plastic rings but I knew that they will not be as stable as metal. So I got a set from discount tire direct. Asked for a size 73.1x53.1 they mailed 73x53.15 and assured me that that there's no difference in performance. Now, when installing the wheels metal rings seemed to fit actually better than the plastic ones that came with the wheels!
btw - uploaded couple pics with wasps
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 05:59 PM
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I guess you already checked the air pressure?
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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35 psi, give or take
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 06:47 PM
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oooh i like the pics! very nice.

I decided to get a LCD for the mini tonight instead of wheels lol

i'll take NFS and GT4 and DVD's over a set of wheels for now LOL
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 07:01 PM
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Do all the wheels vibrate?
If you feel it thru the wheel, its the fronts. the rears will usually vibrate your seat. Did you swap front to rear to help isolate which ones?
Make sure they check the runout on the wheels... Could be a bad set.. or just a bad balancing job(s)
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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i had a similar issue arise this past weekend with Flik Wasps as well ... EXCEPT ... that I had my wheels for over a year already.

Pulled all the wheels off this past weekend to clean them inside and after remounting them I started getting a steering wheel vibnration when doing around 50mph ...

Got the front 2 wheels rebalanced and it went away for about a day or so, but now it's back

have a service appointment next week at the dealer and will have them check the front end.

does your vibration happen at all speeds?
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by lurch70
i had a similar issue arise this past weekend with Flik Wasps as well ... EXCEPT ... that I had my wheels for over a year already.

Pulled all the wheels off this past weekend to clean them inside and after remounting them I started getting a steering wheel vibnration when doing around 50mph ...

Got the front 2 wheels rebalanced and it went away for about a day or so, but now it's back

have a service appointment next week at the dealer and will have them check the front end.

does your vibration happen at all speeds?
actually it happens around 50 and almost completely disappears around 70. Would be very strange if it was something with suspension, although those wheels and tires are MUCH lighter then s-lites w/run flats and change over would bring out the irregularities in suspension... do you have metal or plastic hub centric rings?
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 08:06 PM
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53.1

How did you fit those centric rings when the mini's hub is 56.1
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 08:37 PM
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it happens

That's just what happens with aftermarket wheels. There's really nothing you can do....i have 18's and hubcentric rings and my wheels still have the "shake". It's just that the larger wheels have a larger rotating mass and normal cars just can't keep them from shaking. Every car pretty much has the "shake". (18's and up)

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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by LAMINI
How did you fit those centric rings when the mini's hub is 56.1
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well, I'm not completely insane, yet.
They are of cause 56.15x73, although wrong ring size would be too convinient!

and those are 17s, just like the stock size...
 
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Kandid
actually it happens around 50 and almost completely disappears around 70. Would be very strange if it was something with suspension, although those wheels and tires are MUCH lighter then s-lites w/run flats and change over would bring out the irregularities in suspension... do you have metal or plastic hub centric rings?
yes, me too ... non existent up to 40-50mph ... and goes away at higher speeds than that.
i have the plastic rings, but like I said all was fine for over a year, until this last weekend when I pulled off the wheels to clean them.
 
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