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Old Aug 8, 2004 | 01:21 PM
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Eenie, meenie, minie, moe......

I can't decide ! ! After researching and reading post after post after post about replacement tires for my 17" runflats I am going to ask you all what would you do.


Here are my finalists:
Kumho ECSTA Supra
Kumho Ecsta MX
Sumitomo HTR Z II
Yokohama AVS ES100

Thanks,

Scott
 
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Old Aug 8, 2004 | 01:41 PM
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If you are looking for all season tires. try the Falken Ziex 512's. I have been very satisfied with them. So far they have lasted more than the factory Goodyear run-flats that i had on my MCS. A good 15K + miles compared to the 10,5K miles the goodyears have lasted.:smile:
 
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Old Aug 8, 2004 | 02:26 PM
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I run the Yokohama AVS ES100, so does a lot of my friends in the SCMM. We all love them. They have proven to be a very good tire for us.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2004 | 07:41 PM
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In terms of Dry grip, your four tires ranked best to worst:
1) Kumho MX
2) ES100
3) tie between Ecsta 712 and HTR Z II (not the best choices)

Also consider the Parada Spec2, which is available in stock 205/45-17 size, and won't have rubbing potential like the ES100's or MX's
 
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Old Aug 8, 2004 | 07:52 PM
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I too think I would prefer Spec2's over the ES100's from my experience.
But both are decent tires for the price.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2004 | 07:55 PM
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i agree that ES100s are pretty good for the price. if i had a choice to get them again, i think i would. the only drawback i have with them is that they are kinda noisy.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2004 | 08:09 PM
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The ES100s are noisy and I think rather heavy. You might want to check tire weights before you buy.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2004 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryephile
In terms of Dry grip, your four tires ranked best to worst:
1) Kumho MX
2) ES100
3) tie between Ecsta 712 and HTR Z II (not the best choices)

Also consider the Parada Spec2, which is available in stock 205/45-17 size, and won't have rubbing potential like the ES100's or MX's
Great now I have another one to consider......lol.

It looks like I am leaning towards one of the Yoko's.

Thanks as always Ryan.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2004 | 08:46 PM
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Yes they are. One of the reasons why I am not very thrilled with my
ES100 on my commuter. I want to get some ST115's and shut them up
a little. But they do grip quite well wet or dry...so, for your hobby cars
the ES100's will do just fine on the streets.


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The ES100s are noisy and I think rather heavy. You might want to check tire weights before you buy.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2004 | 09:17 PM
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I've got the 205 45 17 Spec II's. They work very well on the road and when worn down, work well for autocross. A very good tire for street. I will continue to use them on the street but for autocross I'm going to 225 45 15 Avon R techs.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 09:39 AM
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Not sure about the HTR Z II's, but I previously had ES 100's and contrary to what most here think, I'll not use them again. As far as I'm concerned they're slippery.

I now have Sumitomo HTR Z's in 215/45-17's. If you search Tire Rack or even the Sumitomo site, it won't come up as available in this size, but I have them. I think the dealer I buy through uses Tire Rack. They are very sticky. Treadwear is 160, I have 2200 miles on them, and I would guess from this point their wear will be similar to the ES 100's. IMO they don't look as good but they perform great.
With the ES 100's I ran the middle hole on my rear sway for the street, and the tight hole for AutoX. This weekend on my way home from an AutoX I forgot to change my rear sway and it handled well enough that I probably will stop changing it back and forth for street/racing. It used to be way too twitchy for the street in the tight hole. I'm no engineer or number cruncher but I attribute this to the tires. It's the only thing I've changed.
They're just a much better performing tire. Period. IMO.
Plus I think you'll find the price is right too.
 

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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 09:46 AM
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The ES100’s also work very well in rain and wet. This could be something you might consider if you’re using them for daily driving.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 07:39 PM
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Thanks for the help guys.
 
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