Tire size queation
Beware, that the price you will pay for wider tires will be both in upfront cost, as well as drop in MPG. Not a show stopper, but something to keep in mind.
Going wider to 235mm wide tires will be a crap shoot where you will have to try and measure each specific tire brand. Even though they all may advertise the same 235/40/17 on the sidewall, the actual difference will wary by a LOT (easily +/- 10-15mm) between different brands and models. For example, Hankook RS3's tend to run WAY wider than nominally advertised, while Bridgestone RE11's will be close to spec.
YMMV,
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Last edited by afadeev; Mar 13, 2014 at 07:42 AM.
I used 225/45-17 Bridgestone S-04’s factory rims with no spacers on both our 2011 R56S’s and when I traded my R56S a few months ago for a Paceman I put S-04’s in 18’s on it. (All non-runflats) Afadeev makes a good point, we did lose a few miles to the gallon (indicated) with the bigger tires but was well worth the tradeoff and not a show stopper. The actual tire measurement in a given sized differs by brand and model.
My wife likes the 225/45-17’s on her car because the 25” diameter made her speedo dead-on when she pass the radar speed signs, made a major improvement in ride quality and eliminated the harshness with smoothness in the steering on bad roads. I agree, but for me it was the huge leap in traction, eliminating almost all wheel spin, related traction light warning flashes and torque steer under hard acceleration.
This is a link to the 225/45-17 Bridgestone S-04’s specs, it is the most aggressive size that will fit on your cooper without rubbing. Keep in mind the Bridgestone S-04 is rated as a maximum performance summer tire not designed for really cold weather or snow, but we recently had our few days of snow each year and they performed fine with no issues.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Potenza+S-04+Pole+Position&partnum=245YR7S04PP&vehicleSearch =false&fromCompare1=yes&tab=Specs
The Bridgestone S-04’s are ranked 2nd in consumer rating behind the Michelin Pilot Sport on the Tire Rack website in the Max Performance Category. Whatever you decide to do I would check out the reviews and look for mini owners. Stock size is 205 45 17, upsizing would be 215 45 17, and maximum sizing is 225 45 17.
Hope this helps...
My wife likes the 225/45-17’s on her car because the 25” diameter made her speedo dead-on when she pass the radar speed signs, made a major improvement in ride quality and eliminated the harshness with smoothness in the steering on bad roads. I agree, but for me it was the huge leap in traction, eliminating almost all wheel spin, related traction light warning flashes and torque steer under hard acceleration.
This is a link to the 225/45-17 Bridgestone S-04’s specs, it is the most aggressive size that will fit on your cooper without rubbing. Keep in mind the Bridgestone S-04 is rated as a maximum performance summer tire not designed for really cold weather or snow, but we recently had our few days of snow each year and they performed fine with no issues.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Potenza+S-04+Pole+Position&partnum=245YR7S04PP&vehicleSearch =false&fromCompare1=yes&tab=Specs
The Bridgestone S-04’s are ranked 2nd in consumer rating behind the Michelin Pilot Sport on the Tire Rack website in the Max Performance Category. Whatever you decide to do I would check out the reviews and look for mini owners. Stock size is 205 45 17, upsizing would be 215 45 17, and maximum sizing is 225 45 17.
Hope this helps...
Last edited by HorseWithNoName; Mar 13, 2014 at 04:03 AM.
Even with non-RFT tires, 17" wheels with either 45% or 40% profile tires will test your tooth fillings' adhesion and driving enjoyment. The wheels will also be put to the test to stay round. BTDT, bend and repaired 2 17" wheels in NYC + Northern NJ, now on 16"-ers (225/50-R16).
Pristine 16" wheels and tire sets (sometimes even with TPMS) can be bought of someone for ~$400-600 on this forum.
YMMV - literally.
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225/40-17 is a size for racing tires and will not be usable for a street tire.
205/45-17 is a size for both runflat and non runflat tires.
What is your goal in considering a non OEM tire size?
A tire that you can use for daily driving with comfort in mind for bad roads?
Plus better treadwear, good for year round use (some snow and cold) and not too costly?
In 215/45-17 for Grand Touring AS tires
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...wws=N&showcm=N
The top 4 tires listed are all good, the Ecopia 422 is softer riding.
If you can afford it, the Pirelli P7 is a good all around tire.
And if you are interested in 16" sizes-
205/55-16
Goodyear Assurance ConforTred Touring (Grand Touring All Season tire)
$128 each 740 treadwear, H speed rated 20 lbs, 24.9" tire diam.
Tirerack test for Grand Touring AS tires-
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=138
And for sporty handling in a GTAS tire-
205/55-16
Continental PureContact $98 each, 700 treadwear, H speed rated
$100 for V speed rated, 20 lbs.
Tirerack test for sporty GTAS tires-
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=171
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[QUOTE=afadeev;3895410]If you live in NJ, the roads are crap around here, and got worse this winter.
Even with non-RFT tires, 17" wheels with either 45% or 40% profile tires will test your tooth fillings' adhesion and driving enjoyment. The wheels will also be put to the test to stay round. BTDT, bend and repaired 2 17" wheels in NYC + Northern NJ, now on 16"-ers (225/50-R16).
Pristine 16" wheels and tire sets (sometimes even with TPMS) can be bought of someone for ~$400-600 on this forum.
YMMV - literally.
IMO,
I would go try a set of 225 45 17 before spending money on rims, firestone who sells Bridgestone will take tires back and swop them out if you don't like them for any reason.
I think they are great and have hit some big pot holes with no rim bends to my surprise, they have good sidewall height and tire width to absorb hand shocks, minihune is right, they do have little clearance, but having extra clearance has no benefit that I am aware of.
Even with non-RFT tires, 17" wheels with either 45% or 40% profile tires will test your tooth fillings' adhesion and driving enjoyment. The wheels will also be put to the test to stay round. BTDT, bend and repaired 2 17" wheels in NYC + Northern NJ, now on 16"-ers (225/50-R16).
Pristine 16" wheels and tire sets (sometimes even with TPMS) can be bought of someone for ~$400-600 on this forum.
YMMV - literally.
IMO,
I would go try a set of 225 45 17 before spending money on rims, firestone who sells Bridgestone will take tires back and swop them out if you don't like them for any reason.
I think they are great and have hit some big pot holes with no rim bends to my surprise, they have good sidewall height and tire width to absorb hand shocks, minihune is right, they do have little clearance, but having extra clearance has no benefit that I am aware of.
Last edited by HorseWithNoName; Mar 14, 2014 at 02:18 PM. Reason: Major Edit
[QUOTE=minihune;3896199]
Mimihune,
I know, you know, your tires and want to make you aware that 245 45 18 fit the Paceman's with standard suspension.
I put a set of S-04's on my Paceman and they are very nice both in ride and handling.
Mimihune,
I know, you know, your tires and want to make you aware that 245 45 18 fit the Paceman's with standard suspension.
I put a set of S-04's on my Paceman and they are very nice both in ride and handling.
[QUOTE=TwinCoopers;3896292]
Sorry, I thought the OP had a Clubman S. So 17" tire sizes were quoted for OEM 17x7" wheels.
For R53 and R56 MINIs and similar, 225/45-17 is too tall and wide to recommend for street use, many OEM suspensions (depending on which Model year and options) would risk rubbing.
Also for those who are tire shopping for All Season tires, If handling is more important than comfort, reduced noise and longer treadlife then consider Ultra High Performance All Season tires or even HPAS such as Michelin Pilot AS 3. However for pure street use, Grand Touring All Season tires are easy to live with and will give you greater tire life.
For R53 and R56 MINIs and similar, 225/45-17 is too tall and wide to recommend for street use, many OEM suspensions (depending on which Model year and options) would risk rubbing.
Also for those who are tire shopping for All Season tires, If handling is more important than comfort, reduced noise and longer treadlife then consider Ultra High Performance All Season tires or even HPAS such as Michelin Pilot AS 3. However for pure street use, Grand Touring All Season tires are easy to live with and will give you greater tire life.
[QUOTE=minihune;3896311]
Sorry, I thought the OP had a Clubman S. So 17" tire sizes were quoted for OEM 17x7" wheels.
For R53 and R56 MINIs and similar, 225/45-17 is too tall and wide to recommend for street use, many OEM suspensions (depending on which Model year and options) would risk rubbing.
Also for those who are tire shopping for All Season tires, If handling is more important than comfort, reduced noise and longer treadlife then consider Ultra High Performance All Season tires or even HPAS such as Michelin Pilot AS 3. However for pure street use, Grand Touring All Season tires are easy to live with and will give you greater tire life.
Sorry for the confusion, I was just giving you a heads up "if you were asked" that the 245 45 18's fit the Paceman.
The 225 45 17 works great on the R56S and isn't to tall or wide and fits the factory 17 sport rims just fine, we have put over 70,000 miles using 225 45 17 in Bridgestone's 760's and S04's on two 2011 R56S.
Sorry, I thought the OP had a Clubman S. So 17" tire sizes were quoted for OEM 17x7" wheels.
For R53 and R56 MINIs and similar, 225/45-17 is too tall and wide to recommend for street use, many OEM suspensions (depending on which Model year and options) would risk rubbing.
Also for those who are tire shopping for All Season tires, If handling is more important than comfort, reduced noise and longer treadlife then consider Ultra High Performance All Season tires or even HPAS such as Michelin Pilot AS 3. However for pure street use, Grand Touring All Season tires are easy to live with and will give you greater tire life.
Sorry for the confusion, I was just giving you a heads up "if you were asked" that the 245 45 18's fit the Paceman.
The 225 45 17 works great on the R56S and isn't to tall or wide and fits the factory 17 sport rims just fine, we have put over 70,000 miles using 225 45 17 in Bridgestone's 760's and S04's on two 2011 R56S.
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