Tires, Wheels, & Brakes Discussion about wheels, tires, and brakes for the new MINI.

Big brake kits and wheels... updated list

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #26  
Old 11-03-2007, 05:39 AM
shooler's Avatar
shooler
shooler is offline
5th Gear
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Portland, Or
Posts: 780
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
TCE/Wilwood 14" kit with 18X7 OZ Ultralegerra (ET 42 requires no spacer)
altapics032.jpg?t=1194093559
 
  #27  
Old 11-03-2007, 07:01 AM
minimusprime's Avatar
minimusprime
minimusprime is offline
6th Gear
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Flying My Roflcopter
Posts: 1,429
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
thanks for the updates guys. I'm going out for bfast with the woman then I'll do some updating.

I think im going to add links to templates (when available) under each kit.
 
  #28  
Old 11-03-2007, 07:36 AM
MiniMacPR's Avatar
MiniMacPR
MiniMacPR is offline
5th Gear
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: San Juan, PR
Posts: 620
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Nice thread

Not sure if its too early for a "sticky" status but you have my vote
 
  #29  
Old 11-03-2007, 03:51 PM
drmike@txwerks.com's Avatar
drmike@txwerks.com
drmike@txwerks.com is offline
Banned
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Tehachapi, CA
Posts: 119
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by minimusprime

I think im going to add links to templates (when available) under each kit.
Cool. Here's a link to the TSW BBK template:

http://www.txwerks.com/images/Instal...ILHOUETTE1.pdf
 
  #30  
Old 11-03-2007, 04:42 PM
PGT's Avatar
PGT
PGT is offline
Banned
iTrader: (11)
Join Date: May 2006
Location: DC Metro
Posts: 7,681
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
  #31  
Old 11-04-2007, 06:12 PM
garylimey's Avatar
garylimey
garylimey is offline
3rd Gear
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: NJ
Posts: 201
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I just installed on my GP the Stoptech BBK with 8mm spacers in order to stop the tires touching the thicker Strut of the M7 coilovers. The car is lowered with negative 2 camber front and rear, its real tight, lucky thing there's no back seats.
SSR type C RS 17x7.5 wheels with BF Goodrich g-force T/A KDW 215/45ZR17 tires. The wheel offset is 42
 

Last edited by garylimey; 11-04-2007 at 06:14 PM. Reason: forgot something
  #32  
Old 11-05-2007, 05:37 AM
minimusprime's Avatar
minimusprime
minimusprime is offline
6th Gear
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Flying My Roflcopter
Posts: 1,429
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Ok Folks updated. Sorry for the lack of updates over the weekend but we're all caught up.

Thanks for all the help.
 
  #33  
Old 11-05-2007, 06:09 AM
toddtce's Avatar
toddtce
toddtce is offline
Former Vendor
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Tempe AZ
Posts: 1,851
Received 16 Likes on 13 Posts
This is a nicely compiled list but it may be a bit misleading in a way.

Without looking at the template needs for each kit and comparing them we're listing them by manufacture and not by clearance. That would lead one to believe there are less choices for one kit over another, or another.

What clears a Stoptech kit for example will clear either of the TCE13" kits. What clears a Wilwood factory 12.2" kit (TCE Plus 2) will most likely clear the Detroit Tuned. As well as all those wheels that cleared the Stoptechs.

Actually I created a huge spread sheet on all of this- and much more technical data, years ago. Not sure if I can find it or not but I'd suggest the list be populated by "caliper overhang". That way you'd see what space is needed for each kit rather than how someone made them work with spacers.

Also note that some templates include air gaps, others do not for cut out or fit purposes.

BTW: Wilwood factory templates
11.75- http://www.wilwood.com/PDF/ds492.pdf
12.2- http://www.wilwood.com/PDF/ds490.pdf

TCE- http://www.tceperformanceproducts.com/wheel_fit.html
 

Last edited by toddtce; 11-05-2007 at 06:11 AM.
  #34  
Old 11-05-2007, 06:34 AM
mbcoops's Avatar
mbcoops
mbcoops is offline
6th Gear
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: NJerz
Posts: 2,047
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Wilwood 11.75 fits over rota slipstreams 15x7 +40 with a 5mm spacer:

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=118715

mb
 
  #35  
Old 11-05-2007, 06:37 AM
minimusprime's Avatar
minimusprime
minimusprime is offline
6th Gear
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Flying My Roflcopter
Posts: 1,429
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by toddtce
This is a nicely compiled list but it may be a bit misleading in a way.

Without looking at the template needs for each kit and comparing them we're listing them by manufacture and not by clearance. That would lead one to believe there are less choices for one kit over another, or another.

What clears a Stoptech kit for example will clear either of the TCE13" kits. What clears a Wilwood factory 12.2" kit (TCE Plus 2) will most likely clear the Detroit Tuned. As well as all those wheels that cleared the Stoptechs.

Actually I created a huge spread sheet on all of this- and much more technical data, years ago. Not sure if I can find it or not but I'd suggest the list be populated by "caliper overhang". That way you'd see what space is needed for each kit rather than how someone made them work with spacers.

Also note that some templates include air gaps, others do not for cut out or fit purposes.

BTW: Wilwood factory templates
11.75- http://www.wilwood.com/PDF/ds492.pdf
12.2- http://www.wilwood.com/PDF/ds490.pdf

TCE- http://www.tceperformanceproducts.com/wheel_fit.html
This is a huge concern of mine. A list like this is not only a huge undertaking but also a liability in several fashions. People may mistake the wheels listed as the only ones that will fit a certain kit... also just as you said the lack of responses may make people think that a certain kit has less fitment.

I'm not quite sure what to do about this... but I will tell you that as a consumer with a big brake kit... shopping for wheels is very very hard.

I guess I'll brain storm and come up with something. Maybe we could slide a post in under the main one that discusses profiles from caliper to caliper?
 
  #36  
Old 11-05-2007, 02:35 PM
toddtce's Avatar
toddtce
toddtce is offline
Former Vendor
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Tempe AZ
Posts: 1,851
Received 16 Likes on 13 Posts
A thought here might be to list the "Big Brake Friendly" wheels on the market and list what spacer is required then for each BBK option. Kinda coming at it from the other side maybe?

I'm good with the idea and thought here, I just don't want folks to get the impression that one kit or another has limited wheel choices over the other due to lack of posts by customers or what spacer is needed. For example a ST kit with 8mm spacers may use the same wheel and no spacer with a DT kit or a 3mm spacer is needed on a Wilwood factory kit.

Personally I think (admitedly partially a business decision here) that you should list the caliper body over hang of each kit based on the templates or data supplied. Then list the normal spacing of common wheels used perhaps so someone can calculate the required spacer (or close) that they'll need for the wheel options.

So far you have brake kit sizing info for about ten kits I think so line them up on sizing order. Don't forget to add the Porsche kit, the Torax and any other lesser known kits also for equal air time.
 
  #37  
Old 11-05-2007, 03:50 PM
garylimey's Avatar
garylimey
garylimey is offline
3rd Gear
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: NJ
Posts: 201
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by garylimey
I just installed on my GP the Stoptech BBK with 8mm spacers in order to stop the tires touching the thicker Strut of the M7 coilovers. The car is lowered with negative 2 camber front and rear, its real tight, lucky thing there's no back seats.
SSR type C RS 17x7.5 wheels with BF Goodrich g-force T/A KDW 215/45ZR17 tires. The wheel offset is 42


 
  #38  
Old 11-06-2007, 12:20 AM
tomonline's Avatar
tomonline
tomonline is offline
Neutral
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: vienna
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
hi - so i came with my first question - did actually someone fit the 16" X-lites on the wilwood 12.2 street-kit (probably with spacers?)

tom
 
  #39  
Old 11-06-2007, 11:30 AM
cct1's Avatar
cct1
cct1 is offline
6th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,308
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Kosei K1 TS 1 15x7 clear JCW brakes (R53).
 
  #40  
Old 11-06-2007, 03:05 PM
garylimey's Avatar
garylimey
garylimey is offline
3rd Gear
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: NJ
Posts: 201
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I tried 5mm spacers today instead of 8mm, it's close but no rubbing on the struts
 
  #41  
Old 11-08-2007, 07:50 AM
minimusprime's Avatar
minimusprime
minimusprime is offline
6th Gear
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Flying My Roflcopter
Posts: 1,429
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
bump.

still looking for input from bbk owners.
 
  #42  
Old 11-19-2007, 11:18 AM
agranger's Avatar
agranger
agranger is offline
6th Gear
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 3,054
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts
Wilwood 11.5 kit:

16x6.5 Rota Slipstreams fit with a 12mm spacer - The 5mm spacers weren't enough (agranger)
 
  #43  
Old 11-25-2007, 03:10 PM
COR BLMY's Avatar
COR BLMY
COR BLMY is offline
6th Gear
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Concord, California
Posts: 2,349
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Urban myth help or other options

I have the wilwood plus 3 and understand that an OZ ultralegga (sp ?) 16" will fit.??? IS THIS TRUE ?

I am after info on any 16" that may fit.

I do auto-x and a 215/40 16 is only 22.4" tall (8.5 tread width)
or a 234/40 17 is 24.2 tall (but 9.5 wide)

Cant really figure out if a tire that much shorter BUT 1' narrower is better ?:impatient
 
  #44  
Old 11-25-2007, 08:18 PM
Mini7's Avatar
Mini7
Mini7 is offline
3rd Gear
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Charlotte,NC
Posts: 189
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
S-Lites & TCE Plus1 Wilwood BBK

Does anyone know if stock S-lites will clear the 11.75"x.81" TCE Wilwood kit?

If not what spacer would I need?

Thanks
 
  #45  
Old 11-28-2007, 05:44 PM
Mr. Q's Avatar
Mr. Q
Mr. Q is offline
1st Gear
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
+1

Originally Posted by minimusprime
bump.

still looking for input from bbk owners.
+1
 
  #46  
Old 11-28-2007, 06:38 PM
quikmni's Avatar
quikmni
quikmni is offline
6th Gear
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Orcutt, CA
Posts: 2,486
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Wilwood/TCE 13" Rotor with FSL Caliper under BBS RGR 17x7, 38 offset with no wheel spacer.
 
  #47  
Old 11-28-2007, 07:25 PM
toddtce's Avatar
toddtce
toddtce is offline
Former Vendor
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Tempe AZ
Posts: 1,851
Received 16 Likes on 13 Posts
Originally Posted by Mini7
Does anyone know if stock S-lites will clear the 11.75"x.81" TCE Wilwood kit?

If not what spacer would I need?

Thanks
No kits clear this wheel that I'm aware of. Poor wheel design.
 
  #48  
Old 11-28-2007, 07:43 PM
PortMCS's Avatar
PortMCS
PortMCS is offline
5th Gear
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Union, NJ
Posts: 839
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
^ That sucks! I could see this posin a problem in the winter when i wanna switch over to the S-lites for the winter driving months
 
  #49  
Old 11-29-2007, 06:13 PM
agranger's Avatar
agranger
agranger is offline
6th Gear
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 3,054
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts
I just fit an S-lite tonight for another NAM-er, so here is my new post from above along with an additonal S-lite fitting:

Wilwood 11.5" rotor kit:

- 16x6.5 Rota Slipstreams fit with a 12mm spacer - The 5mm spacers weren't enough (agranger)
- S-Lites: Barely fit with a 5mm spacer, but 7-8mm STRONGLY recommended (agranger)
 
  #50  
Old 12-03-2007, 04:58 PM
ChrisMCS04's Avatar
ChrisMCS04
ChrisMCS04 is offline
Peace Keeper
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Defiance, Ohio
Posts: 2,747
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Great to see this being compiled! This will help in the future tremendously.
 


Quick Reply: Big brake kits and wheels... updated list



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:05 PM.