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minimusprime 11-01-2007 12:29 PM

Big brake kits and wheels... updated list
 
So I was searching through nam about BBK fitment and couldn't find a thread that where people have shared what bbk's they have and which wheels they have found that Fit.

So please post up your configurations and I will update the list here. Vendor help is appreciated. If you have a spread sheet of this info you can email it to erikbruner [at] gmail [dot] com . I will parse the info and post it here.

-AP Racing: AP Racing Template


-Brembo:
  • 17"
Kyowa Racing KR 210 17 X 7.5 et 42 needs 5 mm spacer
  • 18"
Tenzo Mach 10's 18 X 7.5 et 42 no spacer


-Detroit Tuned BBK:
  • 17"
R90 OEM - Close fitment 1-2mm of room, Spacer Suggested (Yukka Patrol)

-Ireland Engineering BBK:

-JCW R53 Upgrade/R56 Stock Brakes:
  • 16"
16x7 ET42 Volk TE37 no spacer
  • 17"
OEM R90 17"
OEM R91 17"
BBS LM in 17x7.5
Prodrive P1 17x7ET42
Enkei MM2 17x7ET42
BBS RV-F 17x7.5ET42
all OEM 17" wheels
  • 18"
Motegi Touge 18x7.5 ET45

-StopTech BBK: StopTech Template
  • 17"
OZ Ultraleggeras 17x7 et37 - 3mm spacer needed (minimusprime 5mm spacer)
OZ Superleggera 17"x7" ---- +37mm offset -- 5mm spacer
BBS RV-F 17"x7.5" -- +42mm offset -- no spacer
SSR GT7 17"x7.5" -- +42mm offset -- no spacer
SSR Comp 17"x7.5" -- +42mm offset -- 3mm spacer
Team Dynamics Pro Race 1 17"x7" --- +45mm offset -- no spacer
SSR GT7s 18 x 7.5" +42mm offset - no spacers
SSR type C RS 17x7.5 et42 8mm spacer (to clear strut+brakes)

-Texas Speed Works BBK:
TSW BBK Template
  • 15"
15" Team Dynamics Pro Race 1.2 no spacer
15" Team Dynamics Pro Race 1 +38

  • 16"
16" Team Dynamics Pro Race 1.2 no spacer
16" OZ Ultraleggera
16x7 Rota Slipstreams in +40
NZO 16x7 Speedy Star (Kosei K1 knockoff)
16x7 Rota Slipstream (+45 Does Not Fit, +40 Fits Fine)
  • 17"
17" Team Dynamics Pro Race 1.2 +42 no spacer
17" OZ Ultraleggera
17" "Most" BBS (TSW)
17" OEM R90
BS RC 17x7, +42 worked great
BBS RV-F 17x7.5, +42 works great

-Wilwood:
(This kit has many different variations and options (that's a good thing) so please contact a vendor)

>11.5 (TCE/Wilwood Plus 1)
  • 17"
17" webspokes require a 5mm spacer (agranger)

>12.2 (TCE/Wilwood Plus 2)
  • 16"
Rota Slipstream +40 16" No Spacer
Rota Circuit 8 +40 16" No Spacer
BSA 303 16x7 40mm offset 3mm spacer needed
  • 17"
BBS LM 17" No Spacer
Fikse Mach V +37 17" No Spacer
Team Dynamics 1.2 17" No Spacer
Minilite "B" 17" No Spacer
OZ Superturismo WRC 7x17 +40 no spacer
Rota Subzero 17x7.5 45mm offset = fine
S-Lites 7mm spacer needed at least

>13
(TCE/Wilwood Plus 3)
  • 17"
R90 2.5mm spacer with longer bolts/studs

>13.1
(TCE/Wilwood Plus 4)

>14 (TCE/Wilwood Plus 5)

  • 18"
18X7 OZ Ultralegerra et 42 (no spacer)

... I will be looking to maintain this thread, it would be great to have people helping. :)

Disclaimer: I accept no responsibility for the items on this list. You must do your research when purchasing wheels for your bbk, and always be ready for spacers/issues. This is simple a reference list of what other people have been running. By purchasing wheels and brakes blindly off this list you are in essence taking some ones word for it. Good Luck.

Yucca Patrol 11-01-2007 12:32 PM

Detroit Tuned kit fits the OEM R-90 wheels but only has about 1-2mm clearance. I was fine until a damaged wheel caused some rubbing. I'd suggest a 3-5mm spacer with these wheels.

minimusprime 11-01-2007 12:36 PM

thanks, added.

agranger 11-01-2007 12:43 PM

Wilwood 11.5 kit - Factory 17" webspokes require a 5mm spacer

minimusprime 11-01-2007 01:10 PM

just found this post
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...=big+brake+kit

i'm pulling a lot of info from it. I am going to try and consolodate as much of this info as i can. Todd@tce states in that thread that this is a daunting and difficult task... I agree. At the very least if we get people posting the setups that they have run with which wheels it's a start.

As any one with a bbk knows... wheel shopping is a stressful and obnoxious process.

scott48 11-01-2007 01:29 PM

really good info to know.

gnatster 11-01-2007 01:48 PM

Wilwood 12.2 Kit (all are no spacer)
Fikse Mach V +37 17"
BBS LM 17"
Team Dynamics 1.2 17"
Minilite "B" 17"
Rota Slipstream +40 16"
Rota Circuit 8 +40 16"

Once there is a bit of data you might want to group the wheels by size and then sort in alpha order.

minimusprime 11-01-2007 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by gnatster (Post 1838322)
Wilwood 12.2 Kit (all are no spacer)
Fikse Mach V +37 17"
BBS LM 17"
Team Dynamics 1.2 17"
Minilite "B" 17"
Rota Slipstream +40 16"
Rota Circuit 8 +40 16"

Once there is a bit of data you might want to group the wheels by size and then sort in alpha order.

Thanks for the data nate. Yeah I had planned on formatting and organizing once I get enough data to actually be meaning full. :thumbsup:

mini d 11-01-2007 01:59 PM

Brembo.....Tenzo Mach 10's 18 X 7.5 et 42 no spacer
Kyowa Racing KR 210 17 X 7.5 et 42 needs 5 mm spacer

wohi 11-01-2007 02:39 PM

Wilwood 12.2 Kit
OZ Superturismo WRC 7x17 +40 no spacer

toddtce 11-01-2007 03:05 PM

I'll have to defer to many 13" customers and what they are running for the aftermarket parts, but...the TCE/Wilwood 13" (now called Plus 3) clears the 17" R90 with an optional 2.5mm spacer. And longer bolts/studs.

The Plus 4 will require far more room, similar to that of the Stoptech kit.
The Plus 5 will require 18" wheels but remains more wheel friendly than 4.

PGT 11-01-2007 03:21 PM

16x7 ET42 Volk TE37 clears JCW kit.

minimusprime 11-01-2007 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by toddtce (Post 1838459)
I'll have to defer to many 13" customers and what they are running for the aftermarket parts, but...the TCE/Wilwood 13" (now called Plus 3) clears the 17" R90 with an optional 2.5mm spacer. And longer bolts/studs.

The Plus 4 will require far more room, similar to that of the Stoptech kit.
The Plus 5 will require 18" wheels but remains more wheel friendly than 4.

added your info. I haven't quite figured out if i should add general info. I'm hoping that we can get enough data packed in here where averages will speak for themselves.


Originally Posted by PGT (Post 1838486)
16x7 ET42 Volk TE37 clears JCW kit.

/cough... what about the rest of the bazillion wheels you've tried... lazy arse.

PGT 11-01-2007 05:35 PM

:lol: all the others fit too, but they're not 15" or 16". Any 17"+ should clear, as do:
Enkei MM2 17x7ET42
BBS RV-F 17x7.5ET42
Motegi Touge 18x7.5ET45
OEM R90
OEM R91
BBS LM in 17x7.5
Prodrive P1 17x7ET42

That's it for me since the brakes were installed in January. :sad:

gnatster 11-01-2007 06:14 PM


BBS LM in 17x7.5
Wow!!!

Those are some great looking wheels!!

txwerks 11-01-2007 06:18 PM

OZ Ultraleggera 16x7 and 17x7's also fit over our BBK with no issues. Also, Rota Slipstreams in 16x7 with a +40 and most 17" BBS.

And a whole host of other wheels - R90's fit with NO problems, too.

minimusprime 11-01-2007 06:47 PM

Updated. Thanks for the help guys. I hope that people understand that this isn't the end all list in what fits.

I'm on the fence about posting things like "Most 17" wheels" or stuff like that... what do you guys think?

PGT 11-01-2007 06:57 PM

MINI says any OEM 17" wheel fits the JCW kit except for one model I think. edit - all OEM 17" wheels fit

I just tested the AP Racing profile on the R91 Bullets. :lol: Yeah, not unless you have a 50mm spacer :eek:

txwerks 11-01-2007 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by minimusprime (Post 1839049)
I'm on the fence about posting things like "Most 17" wheels" or stuff like that... what do you guys think?

I agree.

We posted at some point with all the successful fitments we did from our fitment party - I'll see if I can find that.

PGT 11-01-2007 07:34 PM

keep in mind it's rare for any aftermarket 17" to have a high offset like OEM since we're basically stealing Honda fitments anyhow. If any OEM 17" works, most all aftermarket wheels will work on the JCW kit. I wouldn't dare say that about anything else like Wilwood, Brembo, Stoptech or AP Racing.

minimusprime 11-01-2007 07:38 PM

Right on. I noted the oem's. What is bringing this on is I was just shopping for some new wheels, just because. It's a real downer because I always see something that I would love to have for cheap... but the reality is I have no idea if it will fit over my brakes... chances are it won't.

Frustrating. After collecting all this stuff I may switch it up.

PGT 11-01-2007 07:56 PM

I agree. I can score an AP Racing setup for cheap, but they won't work with either of the two OEM sets I have (R90 and R91). I could keep and swap the JCW brakes on for the winter, but that seems silly. The AP kit is only a 10mm larger rotor, so not sure it's worth the tradeoffs.

CooperSS 11-02-2007 01:03 PM

TCE Wilwood 13"(Plus 3) - Yokohama Advan T7 17x7.5

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...0/100_2555.JPG

txwerks 11-02-2007 02:07 PM

Here's the link to out fitment template - check the scale when you print it and tape it to something stiff (e.g. cardboard or the like):

http://www.txwerks.com/images/Instal...ILHOUETTE1.pdf

Some of the aftermarket wheels tested were OZ Ultraleggera (16 and 17's fit fine, +37), Team Dynamics Pro Race 1's (15 w/ +38 and 17's with +42 work fine, all 17" are fine), NZO 16x7 Speedy Star (looks like a knockoff of the Kosei K1, fits fine), BS RC (17x7, +42 worked great), Rota Slipstream (16x7 with +45 does NOT provide enough clearance, +40 works fine), BBS RV-F (17x7.5, +42 works great). Of all the aftermarket wheels tested, only the 16x7 Rota Slipstream with the +45 didn't pass. Most track-friendly wheels clear just fine, give a +42 or greater offset and curved spokes for clearance.

jrbbmcs 11-03-2007 02:46 AM

May be obvious but oem r84's fit JCW brakes on R53s nicely. Just be careful where the weight tape is placed.


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