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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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The M7 Coilovers will be here within 3 weeks.
The customers will most surely post any and all findings shortly there after.

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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 10:40 PM
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The M7 Coilovers will be here within 3 weeks.
The customers will most surely post any and all findings shortly there after.

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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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Do these coilovers have barrel springs that limit the neg camber to 2.2 deg or whatever? Or do they have the 2 3/4" springs that allow -6 deg?
 
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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I run to neg 3 in front when I am on the track but I know it could go more. I have never heard of anyone runing -6 and have not tried that with my car . I will try and see the next time I get it on the rack but in my case the camber adjusters might be the limiting factor. All i know is the ygo in far further that I would ever run them. Here is a pic of the front spring on my car . The dust boot is lifted to show the thickness of the strut itself.

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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 04:00 PM
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i'm not saying i'd run 6. But as long as they allow as much as they say you do, that's fine.

Also, are the front and rear springs linear?
 
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by maxmini
I run to neg 3 in front when I am on the track but I know it could go more. I have never heard of anyone runing -6 and have not tried that with my car . I will try and see the next time I get it on the rack but in my case the camber adjusters might be the limiting factor. All i know is the ygo in far further that I would ever run them. Here is a pic of the front spring on my car . The dust boot is lifted to show the thickness of the strut itself.

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It looks like the front springs are small enough in dia. to run lots of neg camber without having to pound back the body on the inside of the springs like you have to do if your running the stock springs. Am I right?
 
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 04:26 PM
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would it be possible to get these in lime green and black. honestly many may think this looks lame/ghey/lamo. i think that combo looks great and unique.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CynMini
It looks like the front springs are small enough in dia. to run lots of neg camber without having to pound back the body on the inside of the springs like you have to do if your running the stock springs. Am I right?
They are significantly more narrow than the stock sprngs so I would say you are correct.

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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by etalj
i'm not saying i'd run 6. But as long as they allow as much as they say you do, that's fine.

Also, are the front and rear springs linear?
The rears are linear and the fronts for standard applications will be progressive. The stock upper spring perches are what determines this. If you are running camber plates with a linear perch you can use linear springs.

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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by maxmini
The rears are linear and the fronts for standard applications will be progressive. The stock upper spring perches are what determines this. If you are running camber plates with a linear perch you can use linear springs.

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if i do decide to get the M7 Coilovers, they will be the 300/400 lbs/in spring rate. Are they also progressive?

I have noltec camber plates, so i'm not really sure
 
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by etalj
if i do decide to get the M7 Coilovers, they will be the 300/400 lbs/in spring rate. Are they also progressive?

I have noltec camber plates, so i'm not really sure
The first units in are with the prog/ liner setup. I will have to check and see when the heavier springs will be arriving . What springs are you using with the noltec's at this point? If you can measure your perch diameter we could figure something out.

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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by defylogik
would it be possible to get these in lime green and black. honestly many may think this looks lame/ghey/lamo. i think that combo looks great and unique.
We are staying with the sliver anodizing for the collars . We found that any color, once you put that adjustment tool on it a few times , starts to show silver scrape marks after awhile and begin to look pretty shabby. These will take repeated adjustments and still look a lot nicer for a longer period of time . Thats the plan anyway

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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by maxmini
The rears are linear and the fronts for standard applications will be progressive. The stock upper spring perches are what determines this. If you are running camber plates with a linear perch you can use linear springs.

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Hi Randy,
I plan on using Ireland fixed camber plates. Have you tested both types of springs in the front? I wouldn't want to see a Megan type of bottoming problem in the front.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CynMini
Hi Randy,
I plan on using Ireland fixed camber plates. Have you tested both types of springs in the front? I wouldn't want to see a Megan type of bottoming problem in the front.
I have the progressive spring which will be out softest offering. Even with these I have had less of a bottom out problem than any of my previous 3 coil over systems. My favorite test is a really bad set of railraod tracks near the house. My previous best speed over without hitting the bump stops was 32. With these I have gone over them at 40 without hitting. A stiffer linear spring will be even less prone to bottoming out.

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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 11:36 PM
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How much? :]
Set of 4 with springs and adjustment tools $ 1599

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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by maxmini
The first units in are with the prog/ liner setup. I will have to check and see when the heavier springs will be arriving . What springs are you using with the noltec's at this point? If you can measure your perch diameter we could figure something out.

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camber plates aren't in yet....will put them in when i get the coilovers.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by etalj
camber plates aren't in yet....will put them in when i get the coilovers.
Do you recall what specs you used when ordering the camber plates? they usually ask if you are using them with stock sprinngs or coilovers.

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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by maxmini
Do you recall what specs you used when ordering the camber plates? they usually ask if you are using them with stock sprinngs or coilovers.

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I didn't order them, i bought them second hand Does that mean i can't use coilovers with them if they're made for stock springs?
 
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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by etalj
I didn't order them, i bought them second hand Does that mean i can't use coilovers with them if they're made for stock springs?
All you need to do is measure the spring perch and then get springs to match.Can you ask the former owner what he used ? It will not be hard to come up with something that will work.

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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 10:38 PM
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Isn't the spring perch on the strut?
 
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by etalj
Isn't the spring perch on the strut?
I would think there would be one for *each* end of the spring - one on the strut and one on the underside of the camber plate.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by riquiscott
I would think there would be one for *each* end of the spring - one on the strut and one on the underside of the camber plate.
That's a good point

But where on the plate is the perch? I only saw three bolts
 
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 04:36 PM
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I may have my terminology wrong, but I think a spring "perch" is just a recessed/shaped area designed to accept the end of a spring. Here's an upper perch for a Honda Civic as an example:



If you look at the underside of the camber plate, there should be a recessed area where the top of the spring should fit. That's why there are different camber plates for different spring applications - since the diameter of the top portion of the spring is different depending on whether you have stock springs or coilovers, the upper perch on the camber plate has to be the correct size to match the spring application.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by maxmini
Here is a pic of the front spring on my car . The dust boot is lifted to show the thickness of the strut itself.

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what are the advantages (and disadvantages) of a thicker strut?
 
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