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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 11:34 PM
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sounds exciting peter.... you have my attention.... keep up the good work!
 
Old Jan 17, 2007 | 11:44 PM
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Randy/Peter,

I'm convinced to give them a try. Count me in for a set with some H-Sport camber plates. I'll give Dave & Way a call to get it set up.
 
Old Jan 18, 2007 | 04:33 AM
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I was digging the green, oh well!

the coiliver look great, keep up the awesome work!

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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 06:26 PM
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The only color is Black matt coating on the shock (looks like a gun finish)
and a clear matt aluminum on the spring seats and adjuster *****.

And as always feel free to call us any time, we love talking to you guys.

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well, i hope they match my MINI. (im kidding of course...no, im not )
 
Old Jan 18, 2007 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by cooldaddy
not sure but if it's a linear spring the preload shouldn't have any affect on the spring rate... ?
Linear or progressive ... forcing the spring shorter pre-loads it
A progressive spring, will loose at first some of its softer rate.


So if the rears are not ride height adjustable.
After some set in is done, you then would adjust the rate by amount of preload, this is not ride height adjustment it would fall where it may.
Then to corner ballance (or al least front to rear ballance) you would set the ride height and preload on the front.
The compression (and built in rebound) does help adjust within pushing the spring short or letting it ride "loose"


I want a set ... and will have fun playing with them
 
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by COR BLMY
Linear or progressive ... forcing the spring shorter pre-loads it
A progressive spring, will loose at first some of its softer rate.

But, to lower a car with only only an adjustable spring perch, you just move the perch lower - you don't preload the spring any extra In fact lowering the car would actually mean you have less preload.
 
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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Finally a price on the bundled Camber plates M7 Coilovers...

Price: $1899.00

Complete M7 Coilovers and the new H-Sport Camber plates.
This deal good only as a package.

This combo is unbeatable, outstanding for street driving, and amazing
when used on the track.

Peter
 
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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any dyno plots?
 
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by M7
Finally a price on the bundled Camber plates M7 Coilovers...

Price: $1899.00

Complete M7 Coilovers and the new H-Sport Camber plates.
This deal good only as a package.

This combo is unbeatable, outstanding for street driving, and amazing
when used on the track.

Peter
Looks good to me, Peter.
 
Old Jan 20, 2007 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Patagonian GT
any dyno plots?
Haha.
 
Old Jan 21, 2007 | 02:54 AM
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it would be nice to compare the M7 dyno plots with the Megan and Leda
 
Old Jan 21, 2007 | 05:20 AM
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Haha.
I know, fair question, right?
 
Old Jan 21, 2007 | 05:44 PM
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I put another 80 miles on the new set up today and are becoming more comfortable with them as I go along. I had them set to what I would think would be a good track setting and found the car to be a little too lively in the canyons. We have a lot of rough spots and over those I felt a little less confident. When I pulled over to make another adjustment I dropped the setting from 15 in back to 13 and from 7 to 5 in the front . MUCH better ! It is amazing what a total of two clicks per corner will change . Being able to do it so easily, no tools and just a towel to lay on really makes you want to experiment with them .You could easliy find that perfect setting for hard running and at the end ofthe day go back to full soft for the monday thru friday commute. Still takes about 4 min to do all 4 corners The bump absorbing capability was not changed by the slight softening and the car still ate up railroad crossings and broken pavement with ease. All in all a good day in the hills and more experience with setting these up. So far so good, more to follow.

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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by M7
Finally a price on the bundled Camber plates M7 Coilovers...

Price: $1899.00

Complete M7 Coilovers and the new H-Sport Camber plates.
This deal good only as a package.

This combo is unbeatable, outstanding for street driving, and amazing
when used on the track.

Peter
I am curious as to what is involved it track testing? Did you guys test the car before and after the coil overs are installed? Do you test it on different tracks, or different cars? How many test hours does something like this take? I am just interested purely in a "scientific" aspect of it. For example, I have seen products like mattresses where they will have a machine simulate a life time of use in a short span. Is the same approach applied to car parts?
 
Old Jan 21, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by maxmini
I put another 80 miles on the new set up today and are becoming more comfortable with them as I go along. I had them set to what I would think would be a good track setting and found the car to be a little too lively in the canyons. We have a lot of rough spots and over those I felt a little less confident. When I pulled over to make another adjustment I dropped the setting from 15 in back to 13 and from 7 to 5 in the front . MUCH better ! It is amazing what a total of two clicks per corner will change . Being able to do it so easily, no tools and just a towel to lay on really makes you want to experiment with them .You could easliy find that perfect setting for hard running and at the end ofthe day go back to full soft for the monday thru friday commute. Still takes about 4 min to do all 4 corners The bump absorbing capability was not changed by the slight softening and the car still ate up railroad crossings and broken pavement with ease. All in all a good day in the hills and more experience with setting these up. So far so good, more to follow.

Randy
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Thanks for the post, Randy. That is too cool the way you can adjust them that quickly and make such a big difference.
I already told Peter to save me a set.
 
Old Jan 21, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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I have also had a chance to drive a car with the new M7 coilovers. Wayland from Way Motorworks installed one of the first sets here at our shop several weeks back now. Since developing the DDM62 kit I have had the chance to drive several different MINI suspension options on the prototype cars we have been installing kits on, and until this point none of the cars I have drove have really impressed me suspension wise. Many have been harsh or under damped for the springs being used.

After setting up Miata's and installing many sets of Ohlins on Miata's and having them on my daily driver, my expectations for suspensions are pretty high. I am not saying that the new M7 coilovers are on the same level as Ohlins that cost a lot more, however they would definately be the choice I would go with on any MINI. The M7 coilovers have been the first set of coilovers on a MINI that I have driven that feel like the spring rates and dampers are actually matched to each other. The new coilovers felt controlled and firm without being harsh, just like a good coilover set-up should feel. Unfortunately I did not get a lot of time to really test out the new suspension, but it left me with a very positive impression, and I am looking forward to installing another set. For the price it is definately one of the best buys out there going for a coilover set-up that I have driven on a MINI. I wish Peter best of luck with this great new suspension and for offering a coilover that performs really well for a reasonable price.
 
Old Jan 21, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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So the initial feel is good?
 
Old Jan 23, 2007 | 08:29 PM
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Petter awsome work and great infos. Those seems like exactly what your general and die hard racers population of mini enthusist would love to have. Good enough for street and track, the best of both worlds.
 
Old Jan 23, 2007 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by blissfull
Petter awsome work and great infos. Those seems like exactly what your general and die hard racers population of mini enthusist would love to have. Good enough for street and track, the best of both worlds.
Wow, that quiet a general, sweeping if somewhat unsupported statement.
 
Old Jan 23, 2007 | 09:06 PM
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Wow, that quiet a general, sweeping if somewhat unsupported statement.
Simply saying that it apealls to wide range of mini drivers.

There, better??
 
Old Jan 23, 2007 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by blissfull
Simply saying that it apealls to wide range of mini drivers.

There, better??
No, not really. Sound like more of an opinion than a fact...
 
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by goaljnky
No, not really. Sound like more of an opinion than a fact...
Never said anything about it being a fact, so I guess it is my opinion.
 
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by blissfull
Never said anything about it being a fact, so I guess it is my opinion.
Well, as an opinion it is grossly overstated. First of, you would need to define what constitutes a "wide range of drivers". That would require some sort of a scientific poll based on a wide cross section of Mini owners and I don't think any one is conducting one any time soon. Or one could support such a statement based on sales figures. But, since none have been sold yet, that would be impossible to do. And even if M7 did sell 500, or so units, does it really qualify as a "wide range of drivers" given 176,623 Minis sold? So most likely you meant to say that it appeals to you and maybe some people you know, or have spoken to. There is no way you can say with absolute certainty that "it appeals to wide range of mini drivers".
 
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by blissfull
Petter awsome work and great infos. Those seems like exactly what your general and die hard racers population of mini enthusist would love to have. Good enough for street and track, the best of both worlds.
Sounds good in my opinion.
 
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by blissfull
Simply saying that it apealls to wide range of mini drivers.
What coilover doesnt do that though? I think that's goaljnky's point. All coilovers are meant for the street and track....and all of their manufacturer will tell you that. So these appeal to the same drivers that other coilovers appeal to.
 



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