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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 07:01 AM
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Koni Threaded Coilovers

I have a 2006 MCS and was wondering what the suspension guru's thought of the Koni Threaded Coilover Suspension Kit. I don't want to drop the ride height very much but would like to get rid of some of the body roll while not making the ride any worse than the factory. A 19mm rear sway bar is in the future, but I can currently get Koni products at some very very low prices. Is anyone running the Koni Threaded Coilover Suspension Kit? What are your thoughts on it?


http://new.minimania.com/web/Item/NM.../InvDetail.cfm
 
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 07:42 AM
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I've used mine for a couple of months now and like the ride. Since I had M7 springs for almost a year before this I no longer can recall how the stock springs rode but the Koni's are firmer than M7, might be slightly firmer than stock. The rebound adjustment has a real impact on the ride; from smooth to extremely 'stiff'. It allows for a much more controlled ride compared to my previous set-up (M7 springs with 05 struts). The ride height adjustment is from just lower than stock to much lower than stock. I had no issues with the installation, it all fits 'as is'... adjusting the height in the rear can be a pain though because the control arms, brake lines, etc are in the way...

btw Minimania seems to want more $ for these than anyone else. Shop around, I got mine from MiniWorks, a vendor on NAM, not sure if they still have these in stock...
 
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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I hear ya on the price. The company I currently work for owns Koni so I can get them for a very substantial discount, which I believe puts the cost way below what any dealer would even consider. I take it you installed them yourself? Did you need any special tools to do the install? I was wondering if there was a way to get the ride height pretty much set on them before installation or if it has to be done after. It looks like one could get close and then just have minor adjustments after the install.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 09:45 AM
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I have a set on my 05 JCW

I've been running them for about 2 months. I've lowered the
ride a bit and am running the dampers on both front/rear
in the middle b/c I figured that's a good place to start.

I put them in myself without too much problem and then took
my car do Edge Motorworks in Dublin CA to get the car corner
ballanced and aggressively aligned (for autox). It's now transmits
the bumps a bit more, grabs road grooves a little, and really
rocks around over speed bumps... but it handles fantastic!

I've only been able to do one autox since
I put all this stuff on (see below) But I went from placing in the
somewhere top half of the field (of 55 cars in a Lotus event)
to the top 3!! -> I've been doing a lot of these this year so
seat time has helped too

I've also added camber plates and adjustible rear control arms
I have a h-sport comp rear anti-swaybar and 225x15 Kumho
V710 sticky tires mounted on team dynamics pro race 1 wheels

It's now time to shut up and drive!!
 
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 09:56 AM
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I think you should buy two sets so I can buy one from you
 
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 05:34 PM
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ride height

how low can you lower it with the coilovers from stock
 
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 08:06 AM
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According to Minimania... 0.75 to 1.5" lower than stock.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 11:04 AM
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yes and no...

it's really the front that determines the drop. My car is around 1.5" lower than stock. At the front I have 0.5" left to you up, so with these coil-overs you automatically start with a 0.75" drop. All these numbers are approximate, depending on weight of your car, the wheels & tires you run, etc...

The rear has more room to go up but then your car won't be level.

My guess is that you can go over 2" lower than stock based on the threads on the shocks front & rear but you won't be able to drive your car in a normal way...

If someone needs a 'base line' to get close during initial install just send me a PM.

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According to Minimania... 0.75 to 1.5" lower than stock.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 05:31 PM
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so about 1" to 1.5" to be fully driveable
 
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 05:53 PM
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on my car when it was lowered close to 2" I had tire rub (due to offset of my rims) and picked up added vibrations (CV joints?). I can certainly live with the scraping of the front air dam but the 2 other issues started to irritate me. So I went up 0.5" and things are much better so now it's time for the alignment I've been postponing (after I upgrade the end-links this weekend)...

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so about 1" to 1.5" to be fully driveable
 
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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lower

on my car when it was lowered close to 2" I had tire rub (due to offset of my rims) and picked up added vibrations (CV joints?). I can certainly live with the scraping of the front air dam but the 2 other issues started to irritate me. So I went up 0.5" and things are much better so now it's time for the alignment I've been postponing (after I upgrade the end-links this weekend)...

you have the same handlin or better handlin as stock even when your palyin around?
 
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 06:25 PM
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[quote=sprcoper;1233686]on my car when it was lowered close to 2" I had tire rub (due to offset of my rims) and picked up added vibrations (CV joints?). I can certainly live with the scraping of the front air dam but the 2 other issues started to irritate me. So I went up 0.5" and things are much better so now it's time for the alignment I've been postponing (after I upgrade the end-links this weekend)...[/ Quote]

you have the same handlin or better handlin as stock even when your palyin around?
 
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by sprcoper
on my car when it was lowered close to 2" I had tire rub (due to offset of my rims) and picked up added vibrations (CV joints?). I can certainly live with the scraping of the front air dam but the 2 other issues started to irritate me. So I went up 0.5" and things are much better so now it's time for the alignment I've been postponing (after I upgrade the end-links this weekend)...
you have the same handlin or better handlin as stock even when your palyin around?
 
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