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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 08:08 PM
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JCW Suspension + Camber Plates?

After my track day this weekend, I have decided I need to get a set of adjustable camber plates to reduce wear on my tires (I put over 10k worth of miles on my fronts in 6 15 minute runs...). My only problem is that my JCW suspension struts are not adjustable and the camber plates will have to be mounted on top the strut which will lead to my car being higher (It will look slanted from front to back...).

My question for you all is whether or not there is a way to adjust my camber without changing my car's height?

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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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There are a few camber plates available that reportedly do NOT raise the car's height (Helix/RDR and Ireland Engineering are two examples). I'm not sure exactly how they pull this Lil' Miracle off, but it's been confirmed by actual owners in several other threads (try a search ).

I am considering the Helix/RDR's because of this, and because they seem to have a reputation for reliability, quiet operation and ease of repeatable adjustments.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 11:29 PM
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Thank you! That is exactly what I needed to hear. The wear on tires is incredibly bad on the track, but its not worth making my car look odd to save the tires.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 11:45 PM
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I have the RDR plates on my car and they raised the front end up about 1/4 inch.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 11:51 PM
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What about the irelands?
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I have the RDR plates on my car and they raised the front end up about 1/4 inch.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 12:29 AM
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Ireland has adjustable camber plates that will actually drop the car by 1/8 inch for $275. I think thats what i'm going to get
 
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Coopernicus
There are a few camber plates available that reportedly do NOT raise the car's height (Helix/RDR and Ireland Engineering are two examples). I'm not sure exactly how they pull this Lil' Miracle off, but it's been confirmed by actual owners in several other threads (try a search ).

I am considering the Helix/RDR's because of this, and because they seem to have a reputation for reliability, quiet operation and ease of repeatable adjustments.
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I run RDR/Helix plates. Regardless of what the website says. Real world experience is that they DO raise the front of the car about 3/4th of an inch.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by jfunkmd
I run RDR/Helix plates. Regardless of what the website says. Real world experience is that they DO raise the front of the car about 3/4th of an inch.
This is very true. I have same experience with RDR.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 1nf3rn0
What about the irelands?
I have the Ireland fixed camber plates (with the JCW suspension and FSDs). They did not seem to raise the vehicle height, and I like the major improvement in cornering.
My camber is now at -1.9 & -2.0 degrees in the front.

Two additional benefits:
1.) They don't scream "modified" when you lift the hood. If you look closely, you will see that the tops of the struts are no longer centered in their holes, they sit inboard of center.

2.) The Ireland fixed plates have the strut bearing mounted in urethane, so they are not near as noisy as all the solid mounted assemblies. If you are like most folks who drive a street car that is tracked or autocrossed a few times/year, this is a real plus for daily driving.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jfunkmd
I run RDR/Helix plates. Regardless of what the website says. Real world experience is that they DO raise the front of the car about 3/4th of an inch.
Damn! This is the first I have heard that the RDR's raise the car this much!

OK - so the Irelands cost Low Bucks and are great for maintaining ride height. BUT - what about reliability and ease of adjustments? I remember reading comments from some Ireland owners that it was hard to quickly make consistent adjustments from street to track settings (and back) repeatedly.

I don't know if I WOULD constantly change back and forth between settings, but it would be very nice to know that they are easy to change when it's called for.

Anybody dissatisfied with their Irelands?
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Coopernicus
Damn! This is the first I have heard that the RDR's raise the car this much!

OK - so the Irelands cost Low Bucks and are great for maintaining ride height. BUT - what about reliability and ease of adjustments? I remember reading comments from some Ireland owners that it was hard to quickly make consistent adjustments from street to track settings (and back) repeatedly.

I don't know if I WOULD constantly change back and forth between settings, but it would be very nice to know that they are easy to change when it's called for.

Anybody dissatisfied with their Irelands?
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Yeah it bummed me out for about 3 weeks.... until I put the H&R coils on Seriously the adjustment ease with the RDR's makes them my first and only choice. I will try to snap some pictures tomorrow of how easy it is as I need to change to my AutoX settings for an event on Sunday.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jfunkmd
Yeah it bummed me out for about 3 weeks.... until I put the H&R coils on Seriously the adjustment ease with the RDR's makes them my first and only choice. I will try to snap some pictures tomorrow of how easy it is as I need to change to my AutoX settings for an event on Sunday.
Thanks Joel -

Your pics will be MOST APPRECIATED ~!!~

I may be going directly to coilovers when I add camber plates too, so the ride height issue is probably of less concern to me then it would be to someone like 1nf3rn0 who is going to stick with the non-adjustable JCW stuff.
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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Ya. It is an isue to me. Any other info on the irelands?
 
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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You might want to check out https://www.northamericanmotoring.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47992&page=3 thread.

I'm in the same situation as you...
 
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