Camber Plates comparison questions

Some camber plates keep stock ride height while other either lower or raise ride height by the nature of their design.

I'd like to know which ones do what (if I'm missing one from my list, let me know and I will add it)

Ireland Engineering race: lowers front 1"
Ireland Engineering race/street: lowers front 1/8"
Ireland Engineering street: raises front 3/16"
RDR ( stock rideheight )
H-Sport ( ______ car by ____ )
K-MAC ( ______ car by ____ )
Perfect Power ( raises car by ____ )

 

Monday Morning bump...

 

Correction:

Ireland race: lowers front 1", needs adjustable coilover to compensate
Ireland race/street: lowers front 1/8"
Ireland street: raises front 3/16"

Hope that helped...

 

Not sure if it is the Helix {Rdr} camber plates or the Koni lowering springs & yellow shocks {as I installed both @ same time} but my experience is lowered rear 1" lowered front 1/4". Kind of dissapointed that front didn't lower more. Not sure what I will do next. Will front lower more with time and if so by how much?

 

The RDR plates raise the front, as do the Perfect Power.

 

RDR claims that their plates retain stock ride height. If it does raise the height, how much does it raise it by?

 

Try talking to Eric at Helix13.com or Randy at Webbmotorsports.com about the various camber plates. Some designs are rather hefty and thick so they can add about 6 to 9 mm of ride height in the front.

If you have adjustable coilovers you can lower your front back down but it can still be a little higher.

I have RDR plates and it looks like about 6mm higher from the plate alone in the front.

Beefy plates help to be tough which is a good thing, sometimes the stock plates do crack when using lowering springs only.

 

FWIW, not all coilovers give you the ability to raise ride height. I got Koni Coilovers and they dropped the front by about 1" even with the preload set to max rideheight. This is why I'm looking to get a camber plate set-up to allow me to get back closer to stock rideheight with my Koni Coilovers.

 

I have a related question & I hope I'm not hijacking this thread, but I was wondering from the guys that have coilovers what front to rear height they arrive at after balancing their cars. My thought is my car is higher in the front than the back, but this may not be all bad for a front to rear balance.
So what height difference front to rear do you guys end up with after corner & front to rear balancing?
I am more interested in handling than looking good.{I mean my car }
Thanks for any imput.

 

Sounds like a good thing (related topic) to be included in this thread, although it might be best as it's own since due to the thread's title. You'll get more hits on your thread that way relating to corner balancing and overall height differences front to rear.

 

Ride height should be set based upon CG and roll centers - ie roll couple. travel is a limitation, but the other two affect weight transfer. CG is affected by how far away the RC is, how long this invisible lever arm is. Forces act on the RCs first and then on the CG. Getting the center of gravity as low as possible is - in a vacuum - the single best thing one can do for handling. However as RCs act on the CG, they exert a torque about the CG which in many cases becomes greater after lowering cars...especially those with MacPhearson struts. So, in this case, the lower the ride height, the higher the spring and damping rates need to be in order to compensate for greater roll force...and perhaps distribution - lowering will more than likely affect front roll couple more than back. So not only will the car roll with more force, it will not be the same (as stock) for the front and rear. This relationship front to rear may be improved by lowering and it may not be.

Or, just keep things within 1" of stock and most relationships will never get that far out of balance. And...you'll still have all the travel, all 3" up front

 

If you have adjustable height coil overs you can make the ride height in the front about .25 to .5" higher than in the rear so since the stock MINI comes with quite a bit of gap in the front you can lower quite a bit more in the front to narrow the difference front to rear.