just wanted to see if anyone has this and if they can post pics... I was interested in how much they change the rear seat angle... it did say on their page that it straightens it a bit.....

 

You might contact outmotoring.com
http://outmotoring.com/How_to_pilo_rear_stress.htm

also see
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ilo+stress+bar

 

The new mounting points hold the seat about a inch more uprite from what i can tell. Randy

 

that thing is a waste of money. these cars are to rigid for it. just be wasting 150 bucks on the thing. dont do it.

chris

 

...ah, it makes a noticable difference. The rear of the Mini's chassis is not nearly as strong as the front. Install it now, it does not affect the seat back position.

Install a front strut bar too, but do your home work; if you plan to install camber plates, some strut bars do not work, some are integrated with camber plates - the Webb camber plate/strut bar combo - $750.00

You should always seek out ways to strengthen the chassis first before moving on to heavier spring and damping rates.

 

Just wondering on how you plan to back that up? Have you had one installed yet?

It seems that you are challenging a member that has one and tracks his car regularly, and you have never even had it installed on your car? That doesnt seem to follow any sort of logic Again, i will ask that you keep an open mind until you actually test these products yourself...

cheers

 

Speaking of strenghtening the chassis...look at these pics i found over on a japanese/german tuning company's site...pics are small, but looks promising

 

the onus of proof in on he who asserts the positive.

 

Nice pics rallymini. Obviously, as robust as the mini is, it too can use a little help.

 

So then, you can speak negatively about a product and not have to prove it?

retroom

 

ret: happens all the time, which is why proof needs to be the burden of producer of the product.

 

great.... let's just spew hate towards everyones products.... seems like the logical thing to do.....sigh****** I guess there are glass half-fulls and half-empties everywhere but seems like a bunch of completely empties on these Mini boards.....

 

the point of proving your assertions is, duh, to prove them!

whether the claims are increased chassis stiffness with the brace, or no increased striffness with the brace: without proof, they are challengeable claims.

I refine my statement:
the onus of proof is on he who makes assertions.

 

is to :p

 

I like this statement better. A few members have noticed a difference (for the better) after installing this bar.

peace,

retroom