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Old Mar 13, 2019 | 09:44 AM
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These old KONI ads for Mini are really cool and some old ferrari back in the day.

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Old Mar 13, 2019 | 09:47 AM
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When with the FSR's be back on sale? What time of the year usually? If someone was to make an educated guess...
Click the link we are doing a short time sale

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-koni-parts/v-mini/
 
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Old Mar 13, 2019 | 12:39 PM
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Just FYI... the way you've priced these, the kit 8745-1012 costs about $6 more than buying its four components.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2019 | 12:57 PM
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Fixed, sorry about that. Its did not link on the back end.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2019 | 08:29 PM
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I've been searching awhile now for the Bilstein Sports (B8) for the R53 but have only been able to find the HD's (B6) so far.

If anyone has an idea where to source the B8's from these days it would be much appreciated!
 
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Old Nov 11, 2019 | 05:34 AM
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The Bilstein web site does not list a B8 for the R53...
https://www.bilstein.com/us/en/produ...13473343376520

Seems like you might be out of luck here.

Shocks for the R56 will fit the front of the R53. The rears have a tapered seat on one side of the lower mount that would have to modified. A while back I saw threads with people doing this. I know that Way Motors used to sell a conical washer for installing R53 shocks in an R56. So vice versa should work. Does that help?

Why not go with the Koni Yellows if you can’t do the B8s?
 
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Old Jun 26, 2020 | 12:01 AM
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Dumb question: Are the Koni red FSD's an updated version of the gold (not yellow) colored ones? I've seen a few images online of Koni FSD shocks that are gold colored, and more images that are red, and I haven't been able to find any info about the color difference. I'm assuming the gold ones were a previous version? Sounds dumb but i can't find anything explaining the difference...
 
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Old Jun 26, 2020 | 04:15 AM
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This might help:
https://www.eeuroparts.com/blog/koni...pecial-active/
 
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Old Jun 26, 2020 | 08:10 AM
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The new version of the FSD's looks interesting. The FSDs were not supposed to be used with lowering springs, so being able to do that with the Special ACTIVE version is cool. I'm still quite happy with our FSDs, which we've had for quite a few years now. By the looks of it, the new ones might be a little better suited to track use. I never noticed a problem with the FSDs, but others mentioned they don't do as well on the track as the normal Konis do. According to the literature, the new ones should fill that roll better. Very cool.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2020 | 12:26 PM
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Thanks for that link, I actually wound up calling Koni directly before I saw your reply, and the guy confirmed that the red ones are indeed the replacement for the FSD. I think I'm going to pull the trigger and get some for my '05 R52 when I have the finances available.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2020 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by haygood
The new version of the FSD's looks interesting. The FSDs were not supposed to be used with lowering springs, so being able to do that with the Special ACTIVE version is cool. I'm still quite happy with our FSDs, which we've had for quite a few years now. By the looks of it, the new ones might be a little better suited to track use. I never noticed a problem with the FSDs, but others mentioned they don't do as well on the track as the normal Konis do. According to the literature, the new ones should fill that roll better. Very cool.
wait; you CAN use lowering springs with the SAS?
 
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Old Jul 6, 2020 | 04:58 PM
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I wouldn’t bet on it.
Most sites that sell them for MINIs
don’t mention lowering springs, a
few say don’t lowering springs them
with the MINI applications, and a
couple say it’s ok but just give Koni’s
generic ad copy for the special active
series in general, not for the specific
application.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2020 | 08:20 AM
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Just want to add my thumbs up to the Koni red FSD struts. Just installed all 4 on my 05 R52 MCS, 170k miles. Same springs. Mostly the same rubber parts, it was all good except the front strut boots! The harshness of this go-cart is noticeable reduced over little, sharp edged jiggly bumps, and the handling feels good.

Shout out to ECS for great price and delivery.

Jeremy
 
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Old Oct 3, 2020 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by mountainhorse
Is there a kit of "soft items" at a 'fair price' that, IMO, should be replaced on any 60k-mile+ shock replacement/upgrade (non coilover)?? Items in RED

Also, is there any better place to get the METAL, 2-bolt upper rear-shock flange, in the aftermarket... $82 for the stock mini part is CRAZY for that part.





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Here are the parts to the shocks and struts... Upper mounts, jounce bumpers, spring pads, bushings, bellows etc.




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Old Oct 3, 2020 | 03:54 PM
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As soon as I get some money, I'm probably going to get the Koni FSD's for my R52, and also thinking about updating/upgrading all the rubber bits.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2020 | 04:19 PM
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Really nice package.... on a street driven car... with an uprated rear swaybar... gives amazing handling... and better performance than most coilover setups or 'adjustable' strut/shock combos because it's not lowered and has more travel to deal with the 'real world" .... keeps the tires on the pavement ... which is good




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Old Oct 6, 2020 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by GearheadS
Just want to add my thumbs up to the Koni red FSD struts. . . it was all good except the front strut boots!
Jeremy
Koni and many other "performance" struts don't come with the strut boots or "gaiters", and if you trim the original bumpstops you have nothing to attach those OEM gaiters to either. . . but there is a simple solution:

Buy a pair of BMW #33526764418 strut washers for a few bucks, enlarge center hole if necessary to match your new struts, and attach your Mini gaiters to them. This will work with trimmed OEM bumpstops, or aftermarket (like the trimmed FatCat bumpstops I'm using with Koni yellows) or the ones that come with the FSDs.

The gaiters help protect the strut shafts from winter slush & gravel, and they weigh next to nothing.
 

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