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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 06:44 PM
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shox.com is out

other shops are out too.
apparently, everyone of them go thru Distributors, they do not keep them since it is a high price inventory item.

they all use drop shipping methods. yo order and they orders.

i have tried all of them, electordyn is the last one i need to ask to find out if they have it or not.

any idea where else?
maybe i need to call the mexico store and see if they have some, that is the closest one to USA!
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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Nothing at Turner????
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 07:18 PM
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turner is out too.

like i have said, NO ONE has it!

this is the first time that i have ever run into something that no one has available. not even the distributor!

maybe i need to buy a Alta largeIC to cool down my fever oh!

help guys, locate one for me!
call me 24/7 if anyone has one!
917 498 5538
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 07:39 PM
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I gotta tell ya, at this point I personally would consider the Tien system. Might be a tad stiff for the road though, but I think my PSS9s need to be stiffer for the track so that's why I am thinkung this way.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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Can't you

just get different springs? Or do they run out of damping?

Matt

Originally Posted by onasled
I gotta tell ya, at this point I personally would consider the Tien system. Might be a tad stiff for the road though, but I think my PSS9s need to be stiffer for the track so that's why I am thinkung this way.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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at this point, nothing at all
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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I have heard of guys going linear, and stiffer up front on the PSS9s; and to be honest, knowing that was a viable option also helped in making the decision a bit easier to go the PSS9 route...
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 09:05 PM
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May be you should try some Ledas . I know where you can get a set .
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 09:14 PM
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Lmfao!

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May be you should try some Ledas . I know where you can get a set .
Thanks...
 
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 12:42 PM
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Anyone know where I can find the PSS9 instructions online? I thought that I might be able to locate a PDF somewhere, but I was unable to. Truth be told, I only tried for about 2 minutes...

Thanks much for your help.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 01:44 PM
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What is it you need as there is not much there. I can scan te three pages that have info. One is which way to turn the ***** and the others are hight suggestions.
Let me know and I'll do that this afternoon.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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onasled, if it's not much trouble, I would really appreciate it! Just saw your post in the camber plate thread. Hope I'm not putting you out too much...
 
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 02:38 PM
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you guys are so lucky to have PSS9
 
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 03:33 PM
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Tony. PM sent ...


Chris, just what are they saying about lead time on these?
 
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 04:10 PM
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someone say October someone say September.

someone say end of august. no one knows
 
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 05:07 AM
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I was told anytime between August and October. Argh!
 
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 06:58 AM
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Stiffer? Man, just weld the frame to the wheels

You have to have some cushion and comfort in a car

I noticed a big change for the better with the PSS9, on and off the track

Phil


Originally Posted by onasled
I gotta tell ya, at this point I personally would consider the Tien system. Might be a tad stiff for the road though, but I think my PSS9s need to be stiffer for the track so that's why I am thinkung this way.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 09:37 AM
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The only time you need to go to a stiffer spring rate is when your suspension stroke is shortened (because of lowering for a lower CG) to the point that the spring rate is no longer sufficient to prevent the suspension from bottoming out over the hardest bump you plan on driving on, be it on an autocross course, road course, or canyon road. Contrary to popular belief, only reponsiveness is improved with a stiffer spring, but ultimate cornering speed is not. Improvements in cornering speed come from lowering the center of gravity, not simply stiffening the springs.

More info here: http://www.teammightyminiz.com/forum...=2266&start=90
 
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 11:45 AM
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new bilstein design?

(i just started a separate thread for this)

did any of you notice this listing for a 'BSS' mini coilover?

http://www.racers.jp/mini/index.html

it looks much different from the pss9 and it doesn't show on the bilstein website.
 

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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 12:12 PM
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would U' happen to know if the finish of the tube will resist corrosion during winter months??
Originally Posted by iDiaz
The only time you need to go to a stiffer spring rate is when your suspension stroke is shortened (because of lowering for a lower CG) to the point that the spring rate is no longer sufficient to prevent the suspension from bottoming out over the hardest bump you plan on driving on, be it on an autocross course, road course, or canyon road. Contrary to popular belief, only reponsiveness is improved with a stiffer spring, but ultimate cornering speed is not. Improvements in cornering speed come from lowering the center of gravity, not simply stiffening the springs.

More info here: http://www.teammightyminiz.com/forum...=2266&start=90
 
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by joker
would U' happen to know if the finish of the tube will resist corrosion during winter months??
To be honest, I don't really know. It looks to be nickel plating, but I'm not sure. I'm from Southern California, so it was never even a consideration.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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To be honest, I don't really know. It looks to be nickel plating, but I'm not sure. I'm from Southern California, so it was never even a consideration.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 01:01 PM
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But don't forget that lowering the center of gravity with a McPhearson strut lowers the roll center dis-proportionately which will adversley affect cornering power. Swaybars also improve responsiveness; keep the stock sway bar front to rear ratio the same, but increase the size of each say by 25-50% and the car will be more responsive.

Originally Posted by iDiaz
The only time you need to go to a stiffer spring rate is when your suspension stroke is shortened (because of lowering for a lower CG) to the point that the spring rate is no longer sufficient to prevent the suspension from bottoming out over the hardest bump you plan on driving on, be it on an autocross course, road course, or canyon road. Contrary to popular belief, only reponsiveness is improved with a stiffer spring, but ultimate cornering speed is not. Improvements in cornering speed come from lowering the center of gravity, not simply stiffening the springs.

More info here: http://www.teammightyminiz.com/forum...=2266&start=90
 
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by meb
But don't forget that lowering the center of gravity with a McPhearson strut lowers the roll center dis-proportionately which will adversley affect cornering power.
How does this adversely affect cornering power? A MacPherson strut design, given too high of a roll center and what is basically fixed camber through the stroke caused by the strut determining suspension geometry, will eventually "run out" of camber given excessive body roll. A lower roll center reduces this effect, allowing you to run slightly less aggressive camber settings than you would if the roll center were higher.

Swaybars also improve responsiveness; keep the stock sway bar front to rear ratio the same, but increase the size of each say by 25-50% and the car will be more responsive.
Responsiveness and cornering speed are two different issues. Remember, the far end of the "responsiveness spectrum" is instability.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 04:19 PM
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Ahhh... I follow what you're saying. I found this article that illustrates it perfectly:

http://e30m3performance.com/myths/We..._transfer2.htm

Fortunately, the increase in spring rate serves to offset the increased roll rate, so you get the benefits of the lower center of gravity without magnifying the poor geometry of the MacPherson strut.
 
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