Ok so i was doing my alignment on my car
when i was trying to do the camber adjustment, I loosened the adjustment bolt at rear and started turning the adjuster nut, no camber adjustment but the toe was moving....?????
Am i doing something wrong??? i have no adjustable lower control arms yet
But why was my toe changing and not the camber????
Any help please

 

if you were adjusting the lower arm, that is for toe. i am 90% sure that there is no stock camber adjustment, you have to buy an adjustable upper arm to adjust camber.

 

That lower bolt about where the lower control arm bolts to is for the factory camber adjustment. It also indirectly affects toe. The toe adjustment is where the trailing arm bolts to the body of the car.

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i thought the upper arm was for camber? maybe i got some bad info?

 

The upper arm is not adjustable unless you've replaced it with an adjustable control arm.

 

yeah, i know that. thats why everyone buys one set of control arms so they can adjust camber with the upper arm, and use the factory lower to adjust the toe

 

I'm pretty sure most people put the aftermarket control arm in the lower position. At least that's where I put mine. It's much easier to replace the lower one and provides the same benefit (camber adjustment). The bolt that connects the lower control arm to the hub is for adjusting camber not toe. It happens to change toe slightly when you adjust camber but the factory toe adjustment is where the trailing arm bolts to the body.

I don't know how I'm not being clear here so I'll try again...
From the factory the rear has toe and camber adjustment. The toe adjustment is done by loosening the 3 bolts that connect the trailing arm to the body and shifting the trailing arm either with the fancy BMW tool or light taps with a deadblow hammer. The camber is adjusted using the eccentric-ish bolt that connects the lower control arm to the hub. Because of how the camber adjustment works it will affect toe slightly so make sure that toe is the last thing you mess with in the rear. People add aftermarket control arms so that they can adjust camber beyond the range that the factory camber adjustment provides.

 

oh ok got you. thanks for clearing that up. still newish to the mini suspension.

i have both upper and lowers sitting waiting to afford my coilovers.

 

No problem. Glad I could clear it up. The mini suspension is fairly simple. You just have to make sure that whoever is doing your alignment is aware that the toe adjustment is done where the trailing arm bolts to the body or they'll be chasing alignment settings for hours.

 

yeah, i go to a german car specialist here in tampa fl called vortex. they know what they are doing. alignments is one of the few things i cant do so i bring all my vehicles there, super nice people and they have the best alignment machine setup i have seen. it is sunk into the ground, so they can align a vehicle if it scrapping the ground lol. only place in tampa that can align a Lexus LFA.

 

thats what i thought too but camber didnt change for me when i did my alignment using the bolt on the lower control arm....
i took the portable alignment device that shows you the measurements and when i was switching back and forth camber doesnt change but toe does....
i adjusted the rear toe with three bolts on trailing but when trying to camber more on the rear that happened.. i dont understand what happening... is there something wrong with my car...

 

Don't take this the wrong way but if you're turning the eccentric adjuster on the control arm and the camber isn't changing than you're doing something wrong. I'm guessing you don't make your living wrenching on cars and that you aren't doing this in a shop. What are you using to measure camber and toe? Are you using slip plates so that the suspension doesn't bind up when you're making changes? Are you making changes with the car jacked up in the air? I'm guessing you're just not using the camber/toe measuring device properly.

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no offense taken
but i do work in a shop and i used hunter alignment rack
the locking nut is 16mm and a 12 point 24mm for the adjuster nut.. is there anything else i need to adjust the camber at the lower control arm???

 

Nope should be able to just crack loose the 16mm and then turn the 12-point nut to essentially lengthen/shorten the lower control arm which will change camber.

 

ok ill try it again
but imma get the lower arms first
thanks v10climber for the input