Suspension Can someone please help me understand the need for adjustable endlinks up front
#1
Can someone please help me understand the need for adjustable endlinks up front
So I bought my suspension from another member and he included adjustable endlinks for the front.
I have been staring at the front suspension setup for months and Ive yet to fully understand why a longer endlink is needed for when the car is lowered.
Someone please educate me. Thanks!
I have been staring at the front suspension setup for months and Ive yet to fully understand why a longer endlink is needed for when the car is lowered.
Someone please educate me. Thanks!
#2
Ideally the end of the sway bar should be parallel to the ground. When you lower the car and keep the OEM non-adjustable endlinks then the swaybar is not parallel. Technically you don't the eadjustable ones, but to get the "best" performance you should. That being said, I've lowered the car and don't have them, I do on the back sway bar though.
Typically the way the geometry works you need shorter ones for the rear and longer ones for the front.
Check out the end of the document on the installation for the rear end links on NM site:
http://www.nm-eng.com/media/attachme...328856_ins.pdf
Typically the way the geometry works you need shorter ones for the rear and longer ones for the front.
Check out the end of the document on the installation for the rear end links on NM site:
http://www.nm-eng.com/media/attachme...328856_ins.pdf
Last edited by cerenkov; 09-20-2013 at 08:19 PM.
#3
Adjustable endlinks are used to make sure that when the driver is in the car, and all else being set, there is no preload on the bar. Put simply... You don't want swaybars to "be on" while going stright, only when turning. Adjustable endlinks allow for that and should be set while the car is loaded and on the ground.
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#6
From what I remember, adjustable front end-links are shorter.
When you start lowering the height of the front coilover, the neutral position that the front control arm changes. Maybe it's best to call it the control arm's position when the suspension is loaded with you in the car. Imagine the angle the control arm is positioned in a stock configuration. As you lower the ride height with the spring perch, you're essentially shortening the working range of the coilover. Another way to imagine it is that as you lower, you're shortening the coilover and as you increase ride height, you're making it longer. Kind of hard to describe this stuff with words.
The problem is that the stock end-link is too long and it will bang into the front control arm when you lower the car a lot. By having an adjustable end-links, you can position the neutral position of the front swaybar so that everything is not interfering.
When you start installing everything, and lowering it all, you will see this firsthand. It's kind of hard to visualize until you start to actually wrench on the suspension.
When you start lowering the height of the front coilover, the neutral position that the front control arm changes. Maybe it's best to call it the control arm's position when the suspension is loaded with you in the car. Imagine the angle the control arm is positioned in a stock configuration. As you lower the ride height with the spring perch, you're essentially shortening the working range of the coilover. Another way to imagine it is that as you lower, you're shortening the coilover and as you increase ride height, you're making it longer. Kind of hard to describe this stuff with words.
The problem is that the stock end-link is too long and it will bang into the front control arm when you lower the car a lot. By having an adjustable end-links, you can position the neutral position of the front swaybar so that everything is not interfering.
When you start installing everything, and lowering it all, you will see this firsthand. It's kind of hard to visualize until you start to actually wrench on the suspension.
Last edited by countryboyshane; 10-07-2013 at 05:58 AM.
#7
So I bought my suspension from another member and he included adjustable endlinks for the front.
I have been staring at the front suspension setup for months and Ive yet to fully understand why a longer endlink is needed for when the car is lowered.
Someone please educate me. Thanks!
I have been staring at the front suspension setup for months and Ive yet to fully understand why a longer endlink is needed for when the car is lowered.
Someone please educate me. Thanks!
Thanks, Swimbaxter
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#9
For a lowering spring you don't need them. When I had H&R springs which dropped the car 1.4" the fronts did not have interference issues. From that point, you would only need adjustable end-links for the front and rear if you want to try and reduce swaybar pre-load. I still would not even bother because you'll never get it perfect since there is no way to corner balance the car.
FYI, I'm lowered about 2.6" all around. The front end-links are required at this point because of interference issues with the stock links.
FYI, I'm lowered about 2.6" all around. The front end-links are required at this point because of interference issues with the stock links.
#10
For a lowering spring you don't need them. When I had H&R springs which dropped the car 1.4" the fronts did not have interference issues. From that point, you would only need adjustable end-links for the front and rear if you want to try and reduce swaybar pre-load. I still would not even bother because you'll never get it perfect since there is no way to corner balance the car.
FYI, I'm lowered about 2.6" all around. The front end-links are required at this point because of interference issues with the stock links.
FYI, I'm lowered about 2.6" all around. The front end-links are required at this point because of interference issues with the stock links.
By looking at this picture, lowering the car effectively pulls the swaybar upwards. so maybe its contacting the axles?
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