Hey guys,

I've been trying to figure out why my Vorshlag plates aren't allowing me to to get more than 1.3 deg of neg camber up front. I thought maybe that the plates were installed wrong (left to right). But there is nothing on the Vorshlag plates that says which goes on which side.

I took some photos of the plates as they are on my PSS10s. I'll attach them here. They are of the right hand side coilover and camber plate. The left hand plates have actually been touching the perch, as there are tiny dents on the perch. This can't be good.

Thanks in advance

 

I may be wrong but it looks like there are two more holes farther back for the adjustment bolts to occupy. If you move the allen bolts to the right and occupy the vacant holes I think you'll achieve more neg camber.

Edit: NVM didn't realize the the spherical bearing was there stopping any further movement at first glance.

 

I have the Vorschlag's on my AST's. After everything was set up (Ride height, etc.) I was able to get 2.3 degrees on both sides. Have you tried switching the adjustment bolts to the other set of holes? Mine actually have so much adjustment I needed to trim the holes in the tops of the shock tower to have a full adjustment range.

I will search through my pics and see if I can find if theirs a left and right. I will post up what I find.

 

Yes, I have considered moving the bolts to the next set of holes, but as Creeve mentioned, the bearing limits the movement, so even if I changed the bolt holes, it would stop half way.

Edit: like this

 

Ok given the bolt pattern the only way you can tell a right from left is by the stamp in the plate. The stamp goes to the outside of the car. (It shuld be marked.)
(I know its UPSIDEDOWN)


When mine where first installed they looked like this through the shock tower hole.



After the trimming they look like this.



If you are totaly out of adjustment and everything is installed correctly, it might be because the coilovers you are using have OEM sized springs/perches. The whole assembly moves not just the plate and with the springs being that big it would be easy to run out of room in the shock tower. Here's a comparison shot of the differance between OEM and the AST's I use, to show the differance in the spring size. Hope it helps.

 

Ya I noticed that too after my first post, sorry about that.

 

No problem.

Thanks for your posts.

I'm just not sure that they are installed properly, as there are dints on the perches.

Are their left and right plates, and if so, how would I know? All they say are "OUT", but that doesn't tell you anything.

 

When they are on the car do you have the full range of motion?

If not it's deffenatly the spring size, which would also explain your dented perches. Also the ride height will play a part in how much negitive you can get, lower means more in most cases. If you are setting the car up close to stock height you wont get as much. It's just the little things you have to keep in mind.

Glad to help ya, sorry we couldnt get anywhere.

 

The perches are made for the Bilstein PSS10s, surely they aren't meant to dent?

I'm pretty low, probably around 40-45mm lower than stock. Should be getting twice as much camber I'd have thought

 

I think I might have installed the shocks left-to-right :P

I swapped them tonight, and I'll go for an alignment soon to see if all's well, but I think I have more front camber now, it certainly looks like it.

 

Uh oh. Let us know what happens.

Shocks or just the topmounts?

 

Shocks and topmounts. Apparently the vorshlags are identical left-to-right

 

So its the spring size, or did you figgure it out?

 

Nah not the spring size.

I got 3 deg one side, and 2.2 the other side, measured with my iPhone. So I think that was the problem. I'm going for an alignment on Wednesday to more accurately see what numbers I can get.