Suspension Rear motion ratio?
Rear motion ratio?
I spent some time searching NAM and couldn't find an answer to my question... Google search reveals a thread on motoringunderground, stating the R53 has a rear motion ratio of .87:1.
Has anyone verified this calculation on the R56?
Has anyone verified this calculation on the R56?
I Googled, and this site lists 3.81 for an R53: http://www.vehix.com/car-reviews/200...specifications
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_ratio
The motion ratio of a mechanism is the ratio of the displacement of the point of interest to that of another point.
The most common example is in a vehicle's suspension, where it is used to describe the displacement and forces in the springs and shock absorbers. The force in the spring is (roughly) the vertical force at the contact patch divided by the motion ratio, and the wheel rate is the spring rate divided by the motion ratio squared.
The most common example is in a vehicle's suspension, where it is used to describe the displacement and forces in the springs and shock absorbers. The force in the spring is (roughly) the vertical force at the contact patch divided by the motion ratio, and the wheel rate is the spring rate divided by the motion ratio squared.
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James,
The motion ratio is obviously very close to 1:1 due to the supension design. This is usually only an issue with rocker or bellcrank suspensions where the ratios can be 2:1, etc.
If you are trying to calculate extremely precise wheel rates, I think using .9 for your MR will be very close.
DOC
The motion ratio is obviously very close to 1:1 due to the supension design. This is usually only an issue with rocker or bellcrank suspensions where the ratios can be 2:1, etc.
If you are trying to calculate extremely precise wheel rates, I think using .9 for your MR will be very close.
DOC
James,
The motion ratio is obviously very close to 1:1 due to the supension design. This is usually only an issue with rocker or bellcrank suspensions where the ratios can be 2:1, etc.
If you are trying to calculate extremely precise wheel rates, I think using .9 for your MR will be very close.
DOC
The motion ratio is obviously very close to 1:1 due to the supension design. This is usually only an issue with rocker or bellcrank suspensions where the ratios can be 2:1, etc.
If you are trying to calculate extremely precise wheel rates, I think using .9 for your MR will be very close.
DOC
I am indeed trying to calculate wheel rates and natural frequencies. I collected measurements myself on a previous track car, which verified commonly accepted ratios for that chassis. I was hoping someone had done the dirty work for me on the R56
At least we can find a definition of "motion ratio" so as not to be confused by other things like gear ratios.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_ratio
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_ratio
The Mini suspension world is not quite as advanced as you might think, which is a shame for such a great platform. It would be great if you posted your results for what spring rates you end up with for your chosen natural frequencies.
I did jot down in my notes .875 for the R53, but as with anything you read on the internet, it's worth double checking. It's easy enough to measure yourself, too. I don't know if I measured that myself or saw it posted somewhere....I did not need to get too advanced with my suspension design in the end.
- Andrew
I did jot down in my notes .875 for the R53, but as with anything you read on the internet, it's worth double checking. It's easy enough to measure yourself, too. I don't know if I measured that myself or saw it posted somewhere....I did not need to get too advanced with my suspension design in the end.
- Andrew
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