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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 11:03 PM
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TSW - MINI Rear Adjustable Control Arms

I'm thinking of buying a pair of Texas Speed Works adjustable rear control arms. Has anyone bought a set of these for their R56 and have any comments to share. Thanks in advance for your information.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 06:04 AM
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I'm getting 'em when I order my springs in a few weeks. I'd be curious for more input as well.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 08:01 AM
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There are many sets out there on R53/52/50's but only about a dozen on R56. It's the same arm/part and I have yet to have any customer tell me the arms are anything but great. The only reason I'm posting this is because the R56 owners out with them may not see this thread for days or weeks. I'll contact a few and ask them to address your post.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 10:30 AM
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yeah... i need to order a pair but i dont know which brand to go with. All i know is the camber on the rear wheels looks retarded since ive lowered the car. Handling is still great though, im assuming the camber actually helps.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 01:04 PM
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yeah... i need to order a pair but i dont know which brand to go with. All i know is the camber on the rear wheels looks retarded since ive lowered the car. Handling is still great though, im assuming the camber actually helps.
Some rear camber is OK, too much rear camber and you get to sign up for the Monthly Tire Replacement Program

There is some camber adjustment in the R56. A "good" Tire shop with a newer 4 wheel alignment machine should be able to get it back to or near stock. If it's still too far out, then the arms will be needed.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 01:15 PM
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Adjustable rear control arms range anywhere from $180-$250. I believe a wheel alignment runs about $120 at a good shop. So if you need to even adjust it twice, it makes sense to get the arms. Although the alignment is more than just rear camber adjustment.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 05:50 PM
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I think someone on here posted a thread with an alignment DIY, that looked halfway feasible. I'll see if I can find it. I'm planning on trying to get it pretty close on my own and then see how much play I have left in the stock RCA's before I take it in for an actual alignment. That way I'll know if aftermarket RCA's are immediately necessary, or if they can wait a little while (but not too long ).
 
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 06:36 PM
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yeah... i need to order a pair but i dont know which brand to go with. All i know is the camber on the rear wheels looks retarded since ive lowered the car. Handling is still great though, im assuming the camber actually helps.
Well if it's about looks, a cambered wheel looks a million times better than a non cambered wheel. Just space them out and the camber will looks loads better since it will correct the stance.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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I think someone on here posted a thread with an alignment DIY, that looked halfway feasible. I'll see if I can find it. I'm planning on trying to get it pretty close on my own and then see how much play I have left in the stock RCA's before I take it in for an actual alignment. That way I'll know if aftermarket RCA's are immediately necessary, or if they can wait a little while (but not too long ).
Aren't you getting TSW springs? You won't NEED RCA's. The drop on the TSW's is minimal and won't be enough camber to noticeably add wear to your tires....especially with the ability to alter the camber slightly with the stock arms.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Rally@StanceDesign
Aren't you getting TSW springs? You won't NEED RCA's. The drop on the TSW's is minimal and won't be enough camber to noticeably add wear to your tires....especially with the ability to alter the camber slightly with the stock arms.
Cool. Didn't know that. The guys at TSW just suggested that I get the RCA's shortly after the springs settled. I'd still kinda like to have them, but good to know that they can wait.

I guess I'll bump up the front splitter to their position.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Rally@StanceDesign
Well if it's about looks, a cambered wheel looks a million times better than a non cambered wheel. Just space them out and the camber will looks loads better since it will correct the stance.
maybe i should post some pix of how the camber is...

tire wear is fine on the rear wheels but the front wheels wear on the outer edge a good amount... probably all those highway onramps taken at speed
 
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 06:44 PM
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Doesn't really help you right now, but I just ordered a set today from them, along with some other suspension goodies. I will let you know how they are but it will be a little bit before I have a change to get everything installed. I know a fair number of R53 owners that have them and have very good things to say about them.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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I have the Alta's but I've heard good things about the TSWs.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ghosthound
maybe i should post some pix of how the camber is...

tire wear is fine on the rear wheels but the front wheels wear on the outer edge a good amount... probably all those highway onramps taken at speed

Do you have coil-overs? The reason I ask is that I have H&R's on my car (which lower the car lower than any other spring available) and the car was aligned to 100% what it was prior spring installation. There was zero difference between stock heigth alignment and lowered alignment.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Rally@StanceDesign
Aren't you getting TSW springs? You won't NEED RCA's. The drop on the TSW's is minimal and won't be enough camber to noticeably add wear to your tires....especially with the ability to alter the camber slightly with the stock arms.
We have TSW springs and after settling the rear camber is more than enough to need an alignment. I would suggest the adjustable arms at the same time as springs. The TSW arms are great wish we would have put them on at the same time as the springs.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 05:53 AM
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We have TSW springs and after settling the rear camber is more than enough to need an alignment. I would suggest the adjustable arms at the same time as springs. The TSW arms are great wish we would have put them on at the same time as the springs.
And it's more camber than you can just dial out with the stock RCAs? I'm just not sure how such a little drop(3/4") would have a big enough change in camber that it couldn't be corrected with the limited amount of adjustability in the stock control arms.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Rally@StanceDesign
And it's more camber than you can just dial out with the stock RCAs? I'm just not sure how such a little drop(3/4") would have a big enough change in camber that it couldn't be corrected with the limited amount of adjustability in the stock control arms.
Well, regardless... Jeff told me to at least wait until they settle. So, I figure if I get the springs on during spring break (no pun intended) then I can the RCA's in April if need be.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 10:27 PM
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it's not much.... but it gives the look of a crude picture of TSW RCAs on my R56 ... i currently have -.25 degrees of camber in the rear and running no other suspension except rear control arm 19mm from alta...
 
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 10:28 PM
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sorry that pictures not coming up....

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v5...t=IMG_0589.jpg

there's the link if that helps...
 
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Old May 3, 2009 | 06:17 PM
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anyone know why these aren't in stock at TSW anymore?
 
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Old May 3, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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anyone know why these aren't in stock at TSW anymore?
I got the last pair. They should be getting more sometime soon. If you email Jeff at TSW he can provide you a more accurate ETA.
 
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Old May 3, 2009 | 07:40 PM
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sweet.

i like their design, and the end joints they have. less prone to squeaking.
 
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Old May 3, 2009 | 07:53 PM
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Something to keep in mind... Tsw rear control arms don't save weight but they are WAY stronger than stock and other aftermarket control arms
 
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Old May 3, 2009 | 09:50 PM
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Yep, we keep getting batches of them in, and then selling out faster than we can get the next batch in stock. It's a good problem to have, except of course for the people who want to buy in between waves! As for me, I still only have one set on my car, and I had to stand in line for those as well. Someday I'll get the other set, too, but you guys should, and do, come first.
 
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I just received a set of them today and they look fantastic. Beefier than I expected.

Dr. Mike, are the ends rebuildable should they need it some day?
 
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