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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 10:10 AM
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Megan Racing?

i havnt noticed very many of you on here with any of their products in your sigs. I am wondering how good their coilovers are for our cars. my roommate has them on a 240 and have another friend with them on a miata and they love them. i didnt know if anyone has had problems with them or things they didnt like. I only plan on lowering enough to close the fender gap with my 18s.

also, has anyone ran their rear control arms?
 
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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Check out Dopamine's car and MSFITOY. They are the two greatest examples to look at. They both love Megans and Dopamine has one of the sickest drops ever. I am currently looking into them. I think that they might be the best to have for any kit under $2,000.00
Check the show me your lowered mini thread's(suspension section) last few pages, and check MSFITOY part two.(drivetrain section)
 
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 03:55 PM
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I had some on my 240 too LOL! got them cause a guy in my club sold them for dirty cheap. I was happy with them. just that I would still have to drive them on a pretty stiff setting since I would bottom out during regualr street driving.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 11:08 PM
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They are china made crap. I would never run those on my car. rather run with the tein ss.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 11:15 PM
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I knew and can understand why 240 owners bought megan products but I cant believe mini owners are even looking into them.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 11:29 PM
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And you know what about driving with them? I track and autoX my car regularly and I love them. I also win with them. How about you take your racist slurs elsewhere...
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They are china made crap. I would never run those on my car. rather run with the tein ss.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ninjlao
I knew and can understand why 240 owners bought megan products but I cant believe mini owners are even looking into them.
you should check out Dopamine and MSFITOY's rides and it's clear these guys have made solid decisions when upgrading their equipment. most would argue that if their products are good enough for the import market, they will do the trick for MINIs as well. of course some people want to go strictly american or "euro" as well. either way, can't really bash on products that have been proven to work well.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 04:14 AM
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OK I don think you understand what I meant.
I meant that MOST 240 owners are poor as ****. If you work in the industry you will see that 240 and honda owners buy the cheapest crap they can find. and to them any affordable coilovers are good enough. And they are not proven to work well. these guys definately do not have the money to try out different coilovers so they wouldnt even know any better.

I can tell you this much, most well known suspension company proven to work, will make coilovers and will revalve them according to what spring rate you want to run on your car (of course they have recomended spring rates, but sometimes, depending on what your setup is you need stiffer rates). Companies like megan will not do that. In fact they run the same shock on the 240 as the civic and most other application. just different top mounts and bottom forks. I know this because my friend busted one if his shocks in the first week he got them so we went to the warehouse to get them warrenteed. The worker just openned up a new box of coilovers for a miata because they were overstocked and swapped shocks with them
 
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 04:20 AM
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People (meb comes to mind) have had problems with the megans, but he tracks his car frequently.

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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ninjlao
OK I don think you understand what I meant.
I meant that MOST 240 owners are poor as ****. If you work in the industry you will see that 240 and honda owners buy the cheapest crap they can find. and to them any affordable coilovers are good enough. And they are not proven to work well. these guys definately do not have the money to try out different coilovers so they wouldnt even know any better.

I can tell you this much, most well known suspension company proven to work, will make coilovers and will revalve them according to what spring rate you want to run on your car (of course they have recomended spring rates, but sometimes, depending on what your setup is you need stiffer rates). Companies like megan will not do that. In fact they run the same shock on the 240 as the civic and most other application. just different top mounts and bottom forks. I know this because my friend busted one if his shocks in the first week he got them so we went to the warehouse to get them warrenteed. The worker just openned up a new box of coilovers for a miata because they were overstocked and swapped shocks with them
Im sure there are cases when people(such as your friend) have had problems with a product. This happens with all products i dont care if is a crap ebay part or a part made by a repidable company. Like others have said Dopamine and MSFITOY's cars are some of the best tuned MINI's and they both run Megan Coilovers. Dont come into a thread and start bashing a product because of one bad experiance . NO ONE likes that kind of negativity.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 05:45 AM
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All products are made to a price point. Megans are made to sell at lower price point then most other coilovers. It's been proven time and time again by people all over the world with all kinds of products. You get what you pay for.

I'm not stating all high priced items are great too, we've all seen expensive crap. In the long run it's best to look at all the factors and make an informed decision. Just because Dopamine and Sid use them does not make them the best solution, it only makes them the best solution for those people at the time they were purchased. Since then there are even more options that were not available at that time. Megan offers a low cost solution so you have to ask yourself, where did they cut corners. Is it in quality of material, quality of engineering, or some other area that costs can be cut and still offer a product that doesn't kill people.

Conversely ask where the extra money is going to in higher priced products.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 05:51 AM
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I've got them too and have no complaints. I wouldn't buy them if my MINI was a track car....but its not, so they do everything they need to
 
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ninjlao
They are china made crap. I would never run those on my car. rather run with the tein ss.
Hey...I resemble those remarks...shame on you...

As Gnaster stated, they are not THE end all of coil overs...that said, they are by far the best dollar/performance set up I've found...important point, THEY GET THE JOB DONE!...I chose them based on the following reasons:

1-Affordable price
2-Linear spring rate...corner loading is more predictable than progressive
3-Height adjustment independent of spring rate...this allows full travel regardless of how low you set your ride...limited by your fenders!
4-Solid ride without harshness...some "sensitive" butts may disagree (my wife never complained)
5-No clunkin noise!

There has been reports of the mystery bump stop which to this day, I have not discovered or fully understood...I tend to think there was something wrong with some build variance...Blake and I do not drive like grandmas (especially Blake!) and we're both very satisfied with the setup...

There are much better CO (ask Jan/RMW) if you have the money...

FWIW...1nf3rn0 is a track instructor and therefore quite capable/qualified to determinie what is crap when it comes to suspension componants...
 

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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 06:43 AM
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guys, didn't you see the thead about "manners?"

geez.


megans have 250-280lbs/in linear rates, right? that is far better than
a jolting 500lbs/in teins even just on paper...
 
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
guys, didn't you see the thead about "manners?"

geez.


megans have 250-280lbs/in linear rates, right? that is far better than
a jolting 500lbs/in teins even just on paper...
I just stated my opinion about these coilovers. I appologize for saying its chinamade crap. But it is chinamade and its like crap so I put the two together.

Its not the bad experience that I was talking about (in fact you can even say it was a good experience when it comes to there warranty, the turn over time was 1 1/2 hours for a blown shock). Im talking about the fact that any reputable company even inexpensive coilover such as the tein ss, (which for some reason are a little bit cheaper than the megan) will revalve the shock depending on the spring rate that you choose. Megan doesnt even have the ability to with their coilovers. They just mass produce them and bring them in. Tein actually hand makes some of there coilovers. And heres the crazy part, Im not a fan of tein either.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 1nf3rn0
And you know what about driving with them? I track and autoX my car regularly and I love them. I also win with them. How about you take your racist slurs elsewhere...
Ok I totally missed this post.
Heres my track experience. I have driven in two club4ag timeattacks with my ae86.
-4th place behind- ken gushi, Yoshioka (d1 driver), Wesely Hamachi (formula d and considered the best Ae86 driver in the US). I was the only person to drive my car to the event everyone else trailered it. 30 people in the event.http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=0
-1st place just last month

-redline time attack placed sixth in my class, with a stock s2000 on Swift lowering springs. I was running on 225 width tire (falken zeix), but later on realized that my setup was completely off, all the other s2000 were running 255(at least azenis) all around. I ended up being the second fastest s2000 in my class.

Cars that I own
-240sx s13
-silvia s15
-skyline r32
-ae86
-s2000
-mini cooper s (my new racecar)


Anyways I have driven on almost every popular coilover on the market. And yeah you said that youve won several event, good for you (obviously you are a competant driver), Have you tried other brands of suspension out there, try another brand, any decent brand of coilover, youll blow the competition away.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 11:08 AM
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Ok ok...let's get over the misunderstandings...

Very impressive creds indeed...
 
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 12:42 PM
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Im enjoying my H&R coilovers, and im using Megan racing control arms and TSW endlinks.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 12:51 PM
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Megan had bumpstop and damper travel related issues and both were fixed. Their camber plates and pillow ball mounts are basically bullet proof. The design is very clean and allows ride height to be set without affecting travel...an important design detail missing on most other adjustable coilover kits. I would use Megan again if budget were a concern...and it usually is for folks putting their kids thru college.

Revalving a damper for a given spring rate is indeed important if the spring rate is too heavy or too light for the damper. But there is always an acceptable range of rates that work, especially if the dampers are themselves adjustable and that point appears to have been missed here. The rebound adjustment is a ratio of bound and I beleive it is a 3:1 ratio for Megan. So the spring rate range that can be used with these dampers is much wider than a damper that has no adjustment. Revalving is not necessary.

A product may be manufactured in China, but designed here or in Germany. So the made in China thingy is a knee jerk repsonse. And I own a 99Si as well...the first setup included custom linear rate Eibachs and shortened custom valved, double adjustable Koni dampers. Very expensive, very effective. Not every Honda owner cheaps out.

As an aside, if this Si didn't have a steering gear ratio also found in a Mack truck, it might be a wee bit more fun to drive. Incredible cornering power!
 

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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 02:45 PM
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i am not really a newb to suspension but it is new to me in the world of mini's. i have never personally ran megan products but i see them as a love them or hate them company.

i had a tein co suspension on a 2g neon and that had to be the bigger piece of **** to ever be developed suspension wise. i was auto-xing better times with stock struts with an eibach prokit that i was with the tein junk. the car was even corner weighted and suspension was spot on for road coarse/auto-x.

i would go with either koni or h&r co but i want some adjustability and they just don't offer enough imo w/o spending a fortune. i don't plan on racing my car but maybe 1 or 2 times every couple months.

i wouldnt say that about every 240 or honda owner buying cheap crap. my roommate with the 240 is the founder of driftstl and IS the best drifter in stl that has absolutly no sponsers. at the nopi event this summer he made it to the final 4 and was then shutdown due to no cage in his car. his car is very nimble with the megan suspension, that is the reason i am looking at going with them.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ninjlao
I cant believe mini owners are even looking into them.
i can tell you why, some of us prolly have other bills and don't make nearly as much money as others. another reason is some people either don't have money to go "all out" or don't like going in debt just to have a nice car.

i can't you are accually that big of a douchebag imo
 
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by midMOmini
i can tell you why, some of us prolly have other bills and don't make nearly as much money as others. another reason is some people either don't have money to go "all out" or don't like going in debt just to have a nice car.

i can't you are accually that big of a douchebag imo
Or simpler yet.....many of us don't need to place first in time attacks. If i was trying to shave every second off my autocross times, i would step up to the pss9's or something.....but it doesnt really matter to me, my megans do fine out there.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 03:51 PM
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i am a carpenter and when i get off work i would really like a nice comfy ride home some days and with the megans i can crank them down on the settings and have that to a certain extent. when i wanna hit the twisties all i have to do is twist a ****. that is much better than having a non height or non adj. valving setup, i dont care how good it is.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 04:07 PM
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I agree with Rally, many people that are looking at coilovers are not full time competition drivers. Many just want an adjustable system, with adjutable camber plates, and reasonable price. They want to make their car custom in ride height and camber settings. Megan offers a great opportuntity for a reasonable price.

I don't have them, nor have I ever ridden in a car with them, but it seems that there are people that are very happy with them.

So, back to the original post, and let's keep on topic...yes, people have their products, and they are happy with them, some of them are qualified performance drivers and participate in competitions...so they do hold up. Others demand more performance or quality, but pay for them, similar set ups like Leda, which I believe no longer exists.

I run a Megan exhaust and currently run Megan adjustable rear control arms. I am VERY happy with both products, and manufacturing quality is just grand.

I have considered the Megan coilovers, but I want to keep my h-sport camber plates so I may look into a system that used the OEM diameter spring so I can re-use my upper spring perch and top hat.

The nice thing about a coilover set up even for those that are not into competitions is that you can really get your stance where you want it, and have the gains of an improved ride. When I put in my front camber plates, it raised the front fo my car about 1/4", and I would like to bring it down again, and coilovers are the way to do it.

There are enough people that are happy with the Megans, and before you order, contact them, make sure you get a set that had the reported "problems" worked out....they are a reasonable affordable option.
 
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