If explained properly to me, it has the same effective rate as the Madness, Alta and I believe RDR at 22mm. The bar is 25mm, but tublular....

And, it has 3 settings. I'm perplexed by that response.

 

the H-Sport's Chromoly tubular bar says right there in the instructions "designed for track-use only". If you "need" to use this bar for the street, I highly recommend using it only on the softest setting (the holes toward the back of the car).

--->pfunk, it feels AWESOME, by the way

 

Yeeeha Finally got my "version C" bar back from Madness. It has all the correct dimentions, doesn't interfere with the spring in any of the three settings, and it has the original washers back

Anyone have any idea where the new three holes relate to the old two hole relative to stiffness? I have mine set on the middle hole and it feels much tighter, though I haven't tried her out on any fast sweepers. The curves around here are all 90 degrees

 

>>the H-Sport's Chromoly tubular bar says right there in the instructions "designed for track-use only". If you "need" to use this bar for the street, I highly recommend using it only on the softest setting (the holes toward the back of the car).

Then I guess the other bars with the same effective rate should include the same track use disclaimer. Unless I'm missing something, but if the bars have the same effective rates with comparable or the same adjustment ranges (holes & spacing), they should have the same impact.

Maybe it is like a restaurant menu saying spicey, but it never seems to be by my standards. Just good precautionary info I suppose...

 

I just got finished with installing the sway bar and was wondering if anyone else has felt quite a bit of lost traction. I love the fact I can get the cars tail end around but it seems a little like it is almost too easily able to drift.

 

>>I just got finished with installing the sway bar and was wondering if anyone else has felt quite a bit of lost traction. I love the fact I can get the cars tail end around but it seems a little like it is almost too easily able to drift.


Well, that's why they don't put super stiff rear swaybars on production cars.

 

>>Anyone have any idea where the new three holes relate to the old two hole relative to stiffness?
>>Is the new middle hole equivalent to the stiffest on the old two hole or inbetween? Would the the new stiffest position be stiffer than the old stiffest position? DANGER?
>>

 

Ok guys, here is what I intended to write about:

I jsut recieved my Madness rev "C" anti-lateral-movement swaybar enhancers (collars) from George... SECOND DAY MAIL! From Oregon to PA! I am beyond impressed. I didn't even know that he had gotten my email yet!

Of course I put the things on when I got home. SOmething everyone should know, and George mentioned this, is that the collars do not fit flush up against the swaybar mount, due to the bend. So don't freak out. Just center the bar, push them up tight,and snug them down.

One more interesting note, the collars are held on with fractional hex bolts, not metric. Perhaps the only not-metric thing on the car. I had to search for a while before I found an old set of fractional hex-wrenches, and blew the dust off. Interestingly, when i installed the swaybar, I had forgotten my metric allen set at the shop, and had to make do with a random fractional wrench I found lying around, for the drop-links. Go figgure.

 

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>>>>Anyone have any idea where the new three holes relate to the old two hole relative to stiffness?
>>>>Is the new middle hole equivalent to the stiffest on the old two hole or inbetween? Would the the new stiffest position be stiffer than the old stiffest position? DANGER?
>>>> :smile:

 

>>>>I just got finished with installing the sway bar and was wondering if anyone else has felt quite a bit of lost traction. I love the fact I can get the cars tail end around but it seems a little like it is almost too easily able to drift.
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>>Well, that's why they don't put super stiff rear swaybars on production cars.


I'm running with 17" RH CP8Rs and 205/45/17 Yoko Paraka Spec IIs and I have mine set on the middle hole. It's incredible how quickly I can make a boulevard turn....People waiting at the light just drop their jaws

 

In response to your earlier question, I am running stock 16" X-lites with All-seasons on the madness bar set to the middle hole. Yes, I need new tires, but I'm having a blast wearing these out! They are actually more impressive than I thought.

>>I'm running with 17" RH CP8Rs and 205/45/17 Yoko Paraka Spec IIs and I have mine set on the middle hole. It's incredible how quickly I can make a boulevard turn....People waiting at the light just drop their jaws

 

I'm running the with the first hole (closest to the front of the car) and love it. I've never had a problem with the back end swinging out unless I really wanted it to. Usually just a nice firm tap on the brakes while hitting a corner will set the back end up to swing out a bit and help me get out of a turn with plenty of acceleration. After Autocrossing it I can easily see how much it the rear sway bar helps, especially on a tight course.