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Old Apr 16, 2026 | 12:44 PM
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The unstable control module voltage is still consistent with an electrical rather than mechanical issue. Can you include the fuel pressure data in the chart?
 
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Old Apr 16, 2026 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Maybe, maybe not
The unstable control module voltage is still consistent with an electrical rather than mechanical issue. Can you include the fuel pressure data in the chart?

The drops in fuel pressure line up with drop in voltage.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2026 | 01:07 PM
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That's a strong correlation that confirms that you are chasing an electrical gremlin. Nice work.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2026 | 01:20 PM
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Test #1
Unplug downstream O2 sensor and then redo your recent test to see if control module voltage stabilizes and fuel pressure stays high. If so, either the O2 sensor is bad or the heater power wire for the O2 sensor is intermittently shorting to ground.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2026 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Maybe, maybe not
Test #1
Unplug downstream O2 sensor and then redo your recent test to see if control module voltage stabilizes and fuel pressure stays high. If so, either the O2 sensor is bad or the heater power wire for the O2 sensor is intermittently shorting to ground.
Wouldn't that make the car run horribly or since it only is checking the efficiency of the cat would it run ok?
 
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Old Apr 16, 2026 | 01:32 PM
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Good question. The downstream O2 sensor does contribute to fine tuning the fuel trims. But after you unplug it, the DME will stop using the sensor data, and the engine will still run fine in a pre-programmed mode.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2026 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Maybe, maybe not
Good question. The downstream O2 sensor does contribute to fine tuning the fuel trims. But after you unplug it, the DME will stop using the sensor data, and the engine will still run fine in a pre-programmed mode.
ok, would it be possible using ista to see the issue instead? I am also gonna try and throw a piece of electrical tape on the small tear to see if that helps too.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2026 | 01:37 PM
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ISTA and tape are great ideas.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2026 | 01:38 PM
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I am gonna run ista prior to tape and after tooth see if it fixes anything I'll let you know what I find.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2026 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Maybe, maybe not
ISTA and tape are great ideas.
is there anything different i should monitor compared to what you recommended before?
 
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Old Apr 16, 2026 | 01:42 PM
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No. Those are best for now. Good luck!!
 
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Old Apr 16, 2026 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Maybe, maybe not
No. Those are best for now. Good luck!!
So recieved my new cable for ISTA in the mail but have not had a chance to do any data logs with it yet as the weather got really bad around me. I was however flipping through my Bentley manual that I have an noticed that many of the electrical components including the ones I am noticing the issues with share a common ground. I checked resistance with a crappy multimeter from the battery to the engine to check if it was a main grouding strap, it seemed alright but I am gonna recheck it over the weekend. I did notice that all the components go to common ground pin of 31 on the DME. It does not state which connector it is apart of but I know many of the grounding wires go to one of the three connectors. Would you happen to know where the grouding cables for the DME are? I looked in the manual and it told me but was very vague. I am leaning towards being a grouding issues because for a while now, idk if it was around the time I started having the other issues, but when I roll up the windows the rpms drop a little bit and them come back. I know on other cars like my subaru it was a pretty clear indicator of grouding needing to be done.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2026 | 06:58 PM
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Be aware that Bentley wire diagrams are notorious for errors that can easily take you down a rabbit hole. Your best resource is ISTA because it matches wire diagrams to your VIN.

I have a side project working on R56 DME pinouts, so I'll look into the ground pin you mentioned.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2026 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Maybe, maybe not
Be aware that Bentley wire diagrams are notorious for errors that can easily take you down a rabbit hole. Your best resource is ISTA because it matches wire diagrams to your VIN.

I have a side project working on R56 DME pinouts, so I'll look into the ground pin you mentioned.
I noticed for the most part the Bentley manual has been good at least for me, I'll poke around ista and see what i can find. If you do happen to get the pin out setup definitely would appreciate a copy.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2026 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JY03
I did notice that all the components go to common ground pin of 31 on the DME.
Are you referring to the PWM sensor grounds labeled 31 in Bentley DME wire diagrams? The 31 does not represent a DME pin. It refers to terminal 31, which is the common designation for a ground return. With that said, the internal DME terminal 31 ground likely routes to pin 53 (Master Chassis Ground) in DME connector A (X60004) and then to the (-) battery connector via the DME chassis ground (X165) on the passenger strut tower (corrected).

 

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Old Apr 17, 2026 | 10:53 AM
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Yes I was referring too that but good to know. I will check what the resistance of thise wires are and see if that may be the problem or part of it. I still gotta data log with ISTA which hopefully can be done on my way home from work.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2026 | 11:00 AM
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Old Apr 17, 2026 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Maybe, maybe not
was able to get a full pin out for the n18s dme. Gonna compile it into an excel file to make it easier for lookup
 
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Old Apr 17, 2026 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by JY03
was able to get a full pin out for the n18s dme. Gonna compile it into an excel file to make it easier for lookup

Is this the ISTA pinout for your VIN?
 

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Old Apr 17, 2026 | 03:37 PM
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I think your N18 DME pinouts interestingly may be for an early European pre-LCI (2010?) N18 Mini Cooper.

What's your Clubman's build date?
 

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Old Apr 18, 2026 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Maybe, maybe not

Is this the ISTA pinout for your VIN?
I beleive so it was the one that came up based off my VIN it is a 2011 N18 US model built in November 2010
 
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Old Apr 18, 2026 | 12:12 PM
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I did some resistance testing for the grounds and pin 3,4, and 53 for the DME X60004 read at 0-0.1 ohms when checking against the block, but when I tested it to the negative battery terminal it went up to around 0.8 ohms, is that normal? Is it also normal for ground resistnace to increase when the car is in accesory mode?
 
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Old Apr 18, 2026 | 01:30 PM
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Circuits should not be under a load when doing resistance measurements. Better yet, disconnect the battery.

The DME ground pins will almost always be grounded to the chassis rather than the block, so do your DME ground pin resistance measurements to the chassis and the (-) battery connector or post.

Also, a voltage drop test is the superior method to test for a bad ground connection.
 

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Old Apr 18, 2026 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Maybe, maybe not
Circuits should not be under a load when doing resistance measurements. Better yet, disconnect the battery.

The DME ground pins will almost always be grounded to the chassis rather than the block, so do your DME ground pin resistance measurements to the chassis and the (-) battery connector or post.

Also, a voltage drop test is the superior method to test for a bad ground connection.
I measure the resistnace when they negative battery terminal was disconnected and it was around 0.2 ohms, when I reattched it increased. I can not find the excat locations for the ground on the chasis. I was able to find where the ground from the battery went to and measured good. I did some looking into how to do a voltage drop test, I can not find the best way to do it would you mind giving a quick breakdwon on how it should be done.
While checking around I checked the voltage on the 12v constant and they were reading steady and normal. I did digging in ISTA as well and could not find a way to track the Terminal 87 voltage, is there something else it might called I tried looking for voltage regualtor or anything to track the voltage and could not find anything.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2026 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JY03
I measure the resistnace when they negative battery terminal was disconnected and it was around 0.2 ohms, when I reattched it increased.
Please provide details for how you are doing the measurements, what the meter probes are touching, and all of the readings.

I can not find the excat locations for the ground on the chasis.
Trace the thick brown ground wire that runs from DME pin A53 to the chassis around the passenger strut tower.

I did some looking into how to do a voltage drop test, I can not find the best way to do it would you mind giving a quick breakdwon on how it should be done.
Let's start here. You need a back probe kit like the one shown below from Harbor Freight Tools.
Back probe pin A53, with engine and key OFF. Do not damage the ground wire insulation or the wire. Watch some YouTube videos on proper back probing.
Set multimeter to read DC volts. Connect red probe to back probe. Connect black probe to lead battery post.
Start the cold engine and immediately begin monitoring the voltage. Monitor for several minutes with engine running. A voltage drop of 0.1V is fine. In general, you should not see a voltage drop of more that 0.2V.
I did digging in ISTA as well and could not find a way to track the Terminal 87 voltage, is there something else it might called I tried looking for voltage regualtor or anything to track the voltage and could not find anything.
Google Gemini AI response:
(1) In the Diagnosis Query or Status tabs, try searching for these specific terms:
"Supply voltage, DME" or "DME Supply": This is the most common label.
"Voltage, supply, sensors": Terminal 87 often feeds the sensor bus separately.
"Main Relay" (Digital status): Check if the relay is "Active."
"Voltage, Terminal 87": If you are in the "DME/DDE" ECU functions, look under the "Operating values" or "Voltage values" sub-menus.

​​​​​​​(2) If the standard list doesn't show it:
Go to the "Call Up ECU Functions" for the DME.
Select the "Diagnosis Scan" or "Data List" tab.
Instead of browsing, use the Filter/Search box at the bottom and just type "87". If the DME is monitoring it, the entry will pop up.

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