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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 09:17 AM
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Snapped HPFP fuel hose clip!!

Dear all,
I have a 2nd Gen r56s, I snapped the fuel hose clip on the HPFP when i tried to take it off.
Now the hose wont stay in place and it is spraying gas when i try to start the car.

Beside the $120 fuel hose replacement, is there any other alternatives to fix this issue?


 
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Old Jul 25, 2019 | 09:50 AM
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Has that high-pressure clip : https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...e/13537605189/

I dont know of one that would work as a replacement. I would try to find one used and try to replace that set in clip.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2019 | 02:54 PM
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On my N18, I cut the connector and used a clamp instead.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2019 | 03:06 PM
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That clip breaking is a common occurrence when replacing the HPFP. It's considered a consumable item when you do the job.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2019 | 09:54 PM
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Thanks for the guidance, I might try this before purchasing a new fuel hose.
So do i just cut the connector and use a regular hose clamp that fits its size.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2019 | 05:05 AM
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Yes...the hose will be tight so be patient.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2019 | 10:38 AM
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Use the real part, don't cheap out with fuel connection. Just my 2 cents.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2023 | 02:24 AM
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Hello,

I know this is an old thread, but I faced the same problem described here, minus the line leaking (mine is bone dry, only the clips on the side are broken. Not the "real" ones, holding the hose in place). And I know how to solve it!!!
I was trying to remove the hose, it didn't work, both clips snapped clean of. I then struggled the same way as described here, trying to find out, how the mechanism works.

I then asked my dad if he maybe had another idea as to how you can loosen the hose and how this connectors mechanism really works.
After some time looking at it, my dad told me: "It could be working like a shop air fitting."

And it indeed is working just like that. The fitting is a sliding sleeve type fitting, just like those fittings you find on an air compressor.

To loosen it, just press the hose towards the pump as far as you can, then hold the plastic piece that was beneath the clip in place, and simply pull the hose of.
This also works as a trick for intact clips: Push it towards the pump, then press them in, and keeping them pressed, pull the hose back.


The hose is extremely simple to loosen, now that I know how to do it.

Originally Posted by MiniToBe
On my N18, I cut the connector and used a clamp instead.
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Turns out: You don't need to cut anything. The mechanism is actually really simple once you know how it works and (when intact) so easily removable, you can do it by hand.

When the top clip is broken off, you can actually see how the mechanism works.
The top part (the clip that often breaks) is sliding back and fourth on top of the lower part (the sleeve) when you move the connector. The top part and the outer shell of the connector will move pushing it towards the pump, the lower portion won't.
It works as follows: When you push the connector towards the pump, it actually already loosens the clips in the inner portion of the connector. The connector is basically "loosend", when you push it to the pump. But while you try to just pull it of, the sleeve stays in place and when the connector moves away from the pump, the clips keeping it in place come back out: You can't get it of.
That means you have to keep the inner clips in the "open" position that is reached when you push the connector towards the pump while pulling back.
This is normally done via the outer "clips", that you push in. Those "clips" actually just push on the inner sleeve to force it to stay in this position, not being able to move seperately from the outer connector. This way the inner clips stay "open" when you pull the connector back, and you can get it of.
When the clips are broken of, you can mimic this with a screwdriver for example and keep the sleeve from seperately moving that way. It's a bit finniky, but works.

The clips break because people (and I don't blame anyone, I also didn't understand it at first and broke mine) don't understand, how the connector actually works. When you just push the clips in, without pushing the connector towards the pump first, it won't let go. You are basically forcing the inner clips closed that way.

So the right way to do it is:

1. Push the connector towards the HPFP

2. Keep the inner sleeve in place (normally done by lightly pressing the outer clips, when broken, use something else to keep the inner portion from moving)

​​​​​​3. Pull the connector of while keeping the inner sleeve in place.

4. Yay, you made it. Connector is of.


I hope this was a somewhat useable explanation. English is not my first language, so I hope this is somewhat understandable or useable.

Thank you for reading. Hope this has helped someone loosen this connector.

Greetings from Germany.


 
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Old Jun 26, 2024 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Nordlicht
Hello,

I know this is an old thread, but I faced the same problem described here, minus the line leaking (mine is bone dry, only the clips on the side are broken. Not the "real" ones, holding the hose in place). And I know how to solve it!!!
I was trying to remove the hose, it didn't work, both clips snapped clean of. I then struggled the same way as described here, trying to find out, how the mechanism works.

I then asked my dad if he maybe had another idea as to how you can loosen the hose and how this connectors mechanism really works.
After some time looking at it, my dad told me: "It could be working like a shop air fitting."

And it indeed is working just like that. The fitting is a sliding sleeve type fitting, just like those fittings you find on an air compressor.

To loosen it, just press the hose towards the pump as far as you can, then hold the plastic piece that was beneath the clip in place, and simply pull the hose of.
This also works as a trick for intact clips: Push it towards the pump, then press them in, and keeping them pressed, pull the hose back.


The hose is extremely simple to loosen, now that I know how to do it.


​​​​​
Turns out: You don't need to cut anything. The mechanism is actually really simple once you know how it works and (when intact) so easily removable, you can do it by hand.

When the top clip is broken off, you can actually see how the mechanism works.
The top part (the clip that often breaks) is sliding back and fourth on top of the lower part (the sleeve) when you move the connector. The top part and the outer shell of the connector will move pushing it towards the pump, the lower portion won't.
It works as follows: When you push the connector towards the pump, it actually already loosens the clips in the inner portion of the connector. The connector is basically "loosend", when you push it to the pump. But while you try to just pull it of, the sleeve stays in place and when the connector moves away from the pump, the clips keeping it in place come back out: You can't get it of.
That means you have to keep the inner clips in the "open" position that is reached when you push the connector towards the pump while pulling back.
This is normally done via the outer "clips", that you push in. Those "clips" actually just push on the inner sleeve to force it to stay in this position, not being able to move seperately from the outer connector. This way the inner clips stay "open" when you pull the connector back, and you can get it of.
When the clips are broken of, you can mimic this with a screwdriver for example and keep the sleeve from seperately moving that way. It's a bit finniky, but works.

The clips break because people (and I don't blame anyone, I also didn't understand it at first and broke mine) don't understand, how the connector actually works. When you just push the clips in, without pushing the connector towards the pump first, it won't let go. You are basically forcing the inner clips closed that way.

So the right way to do it is:

1. Push the connector towards the HPFP

2. Keep the inner sleeve in place (normally done by lightly pressing the outer clips, when broken, use something else to keep the inner portion from moving)

​​​​​​3. Pull the connector of while keeping the inner sleeve in place.

4. Yay, you made it. Connector is of.


I hope this was a somewhat useable explanation. English is not my first language, so I hope this is somewhat understandable or useable.

Thank you for reading. Hope this has helped someone loosen this connector.

Greetings from Germany.
THIS IS THE WAY!!! thank you for saving me a bunch of money and time, you are a genius. I made this account specifically to thank you
 
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