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Clutch and flywheel

Ok hey everyone I'm in search of a new clutch and am not sure what to chose. I am deciding between clutch masters or south Bend Clutch. I currently have a stock 2007 mini cooper s. I have plans to upgrade my car after the clutch is done, my goal is 200 whp.

I know for sure that I want a single mass flywheel to handle extra power but specifically a steel one not aluminum so there is as little chatter and gear noise as possible.

Do all three brands I'm looking at have single mass steel flywheels? Which brand and stage would be best for me?

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200 whp is an easy goal. The stock clutch will handle that extra bit of hp easy. I've got 200 whp with a new $150 LUK clutch and I do not experience any clutch slippage. Tires yes, clutch no.
 
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Do the other upgrades first and wait for the clutch to start slipping. By then, you should have more info on which clutch will be best for you --- and you'll probably have higher goals too, power is addictive.
 
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I need a new clutch very soon. It slips in 3rd and above once boost hits. 200whp is just my starting goal with bolts on's and stock turbo. I know I want either a South Bend or clutch master clutch and flywheel. Southbend is a bit cheaper but have heard great things about the brand just not anything mini experience wise.
 
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Old 06-09-2019, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by I like mini clubman's View Post
200 whp is an easy goal. The stock clutch will handle that extra bit of hp easy. I've got 200 whp with a new $150 LUK clutch and I do not experience any clutch slippage. Tires yes, clutch no.
I assume you still converted to a SMF. I know I don't want a DMF because with more power and torque it won't last. I also might as well put a better clutch in it too than OEM to support whatever the future brings
 
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Go with the clutchmaster like the FX250 as it will work for that.
https://www.waymotorworks.com/clutch...-cooper-s.html
 
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If you can find the $$$, go for an OS Giken STR series clutch / flywheel package. Minimum chatter with aluminum and very reliable, even when handling 300+ WHP and 400ft-lbs torque.
 
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Originally Posted by WayMotorWorks View Post
Go with the clutchmaster like the FX250 as it will work for that.
https://www.waymotorworks.com/clutch...-cooper-s.html
Do you have any input on southbend?
 
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Originally Posted by oldbrokenwind View Post
If you can find the $$$, go for an OS Giken STR series clutch / flywheel package. Minimum chatter with aluminum and very reliable, even when handling 300+ WHP and 400ft-lbs torque.
Ya I thought about that buys its just so expensive. I don't want to pay that much
 
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According to Car ID the price for southbend stage 2 clutch with flywheel is $1200 CAD.
Clutchmasters FX250 and steel flywheel is $1600 CAD

What I can't figure out is the weight of each flywheel. If one is heavier I want to go with that one to reduce any gear noise.
 
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I assume you still converted to a SMF. I know I don't want a DMF because with more power and torque it won't last. I also might as well put a better clutch in it too than OEM to support whatever the future brings
I'm running the factory DMF and cheapest clutch on rockauto.com. if anything I need a posi to get traction to both wheels.
 
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Ok so update apperently the southbend comes with a dual mass flywheel. This is weird to me because with everything I have read, I understand that a dual mass flywheel is not able to handle any power increases and will break very quickly.
 
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Do you have any input on southbend?
We offer the South Bend kits and have had very good luck with them. But they just are a clutch, pressure plate, and throwout bearing. You mount this kit to your existing Dual mass flywheel.
https://www.waymotorworks.com/south-...7-r58-r59.html
 
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Originally Posted by Parker Young View Post
Do you have any input on southbend?
I have a SB stage 2 in my otherwise stock 2013 GTI. Pedal is a little heavier than I like but perfectly livable. It has a very nice confident feel to it. In fact it really transformed the car.
 
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Originally Posted by WayMotorWorks View Post
We offer the South Bend kits and have had very good luck with them. But they just are a clutch, pressure plate, and throwout bearing. You mount this kit to your existing Dual mass flywheel.
https://www.waymotorworks.com/south-...7-r58-r59.html
I need a new flywheel as well. If I replace the dual mass flywheel with another dual mass, won't it not be able to withstand power and torque increases?
 
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I need a new flywheel as well. If I replace the dual mass flywheel with another dual mass, won't it not be able to withstand power and torque increases?
Yes you can replace the dual mass with another new one. The stock flywheel can handle the power so I wouldn't be concerned with that.
https://www.waymotorworks.com/stock-...-cooper-s.html
 
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Originally Posted by WayMotorWorks View Post
Yes you can replace the dual mass with another new one. The stock flywheel can handle the power so I wouldn't be concerned with that.
https://www.waymotorworks.com/stock-...-cooper-s.html
How much torque and power can the dual mass handle. Everything that I've read has said the stock one can't handle any increase and will fail even if you just drive your car hard.
 
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