P1688 code a burning rubber
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P1688 code a burning rubber
My daughter was driving her 2002 MCS home from work and she got a check engine light and the engine died when revved over 4000 rpm. She limped home and I see a P1688 Electronic Throttle Control Monitor code, but that doesn’t match with the noises I hear from the engine bay. You can hear the noise with this linked clip, particularly right at the end. I can smell burning rubber, which might be a belt, but I’m not sure what the clicking noise is at the end.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Thanks for any suggestions.
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Can’t see the video but check your crank pulley. It has a rubber core that is famous for failing. Look for rubber particles around the pulley area. Start it and look for wobble on the pulley. Any wobble at all and it’s bad. You can also use a pry bar and try and move the outside of the pulley, the partnthe belt goes around, away from the block. If it’s loose it’s has separated.
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- OEM: cheap and known, but will fail again in the foreseeable future
- ATI SuperDamper: more pricey, but built like a tank
- lightweight flywheels: increased throttle response, but loss of damping effect can be risky to other components
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The OEM one is not exactly cheap still $250+ and as you found out, can fail at in opportune times.
The ATI is the best solution, though a few of us have had success with a middle choice, the PRW fluid harmonic balancer. It’s a little less than the ATI.
We’ve been using the PRW for about 15K and it’s been fine for the mostly commute miles the car is used for.
Definitely change the front crank seal while replacing the pulley.
Last edited by Zsm; 02-09-2019 at 09:06 AM.
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For sure it is time for a new crank pulley as the burning rubber smell is always the tell.
Go for the ATI damper as it is by far the best in quality, fit, and how well it balances as you will notice the car run smoother with it. We have used the PRW one and offer them but the quality isn't as good as the ATI and we have had issues at time with them fitting.
https://www.waymotorworks.com/super-...ulley-r53.html
We keep them in stock so it can ship Monday morning to get to you fast too.
Go for the ATI damper as it is by far the best in quality, fit, and how well it balances as you will notice the car run smoother with it. We have used the PRW one and offer them but the quality isn't as good as the ATI and we have had issues at time with them fitting.
https://www.waymotorworks.com/super-...ulley-r53.html
We keep them in stock so it can ship Monday morning to get to you fast too.
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Anything else I should look at "while I'm in there"? We picked this car up last summer, and it has 90,000 miles and appears to have been neglected as far as maintenance. With the crank pulley off its fairly straightforward to replace the leaking front main seal, and the tensioner appears original and may or may not be working, so I think I'll replace it now. How about the other pulley, do they go bad or can I leave it? Anything else?
Also, is the 2% pulley option for the ATI damper a reliable upgrade? I know its not a ton of difference, but my daughter plans to autocross the car and it might be fun to bump the power a bit. However, it is a used car with unknown maintenance. Do mods like pulley upgrades increase the wear on an old supercharger to the point that it might affect reliability?
Also, is the 2% pulley option for the ATI damper a reliable upgrade? I know its not a ton of difference, but my daughter plans to autocross the car and it might be fun to bump the power a bit. However, it is a used car with unknown maintenance. Do mods like pulley upgrades increase the wear on an old supercharger to the point that it might affect reliability?
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Anything else I should look at "while I'm in there"? We picked this car up last summer, and it has 90,000 miles and appears to have been neglected as far as maintenance. With the crank pulley off its fairly straightforward to replace the leaking front main seal, and the tensioner appears original and may or may not be working, so I think I'll replace it now. How about the other pulley, do they go bad or can I leave it? Anything else?
Also, is the 2% pulley option for the ATI damper a reliable upgrade? I know its not a ton of difference, but my daughter plans to autocross the car and it might be fun to bump the power a bit. However, it is a used car with unknown maintenance. Do mods like pulley upgrades increase the wear on an old supercharger to the point that it might affect reliability?
Also, is the 2% pulley option for the ATI damper a reliable upgrade? I know its not a ton of difference, but my daughter plans to autocross the car and it might be fun to bump the power a bit. However, it is a used car with unknown maintenance. Do mods like pulley upgrades increase the wear on an old supercharger to the point that it might affect reliability?
To answer your question, yes, replace the pulley, tensioner, idler pulley and belt. Check for leaks coming from the time case cover and address if necessary.
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Thanks for the suggestions. I'm actually a returning r53 owner; in 2002 we bought an MCS identical to this current car, only to have it totaled by a rampant minivan in 2009. My wife replaced that car with Clubman, so its been awhile since I delved back into the world of r53 peculiarities. I've already changed the clutch, all fluids and a fair bit of rubber bushings. I hope the clutch job on this car is not an omen, because our previous MCS was totaled 2 weeks after I did the clutch on it!
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