Fuel pump not priming before start
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Fuel pump not priming before start
I'm having sputtering, missfires and low fuel pressure for 20-30 seconds on start-up then full performance afterwords. This is after the car sits for 8 hours or more. I replaced the fuel pump and tested voltage to the pump. Looks like the pump is never getting voltage to "prime" either at door open or ignition on. When I start the engine I get full 13 volts to the pump. What would cause the pump not to get voltage to prime? After the hard starting, the car runs perfect.
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Haven’t had this issue before. You could have a bad primary fuel pump. The pump primes when you open the driver door. Open the door and listen carefully for a little hum or buzz, That’s the system priming. If you don’t here that then that’s likely your problem. I don’t know how that primary pump works, or if there’s a fuse/relay that you can replace if system doesn’t prime when door opens. I just don’t know that part. You might have to replace the primary pump. Access is under back seat.
#4
Did you ever sort this out
I’m having the same problem fuel pump not priming until startup
no prime or voltage when door opens, no prime or voltage when ignition is turned on.
only when the engine is turned over does the finely pump run.
when power is put to the fuel pump it runs, so fuel pump is fine.
i have tested the relay the black one at the bottom of the fuse panel inside the car and it clicks, I assume this is the fuel pump relay ? When I look on websites for the relay it shows a 5 pin relay but the one in the car is only a 4 pin.
the car was running fine until a couple of weeks ago so if this is the relay it should be the right one.
all of these minis seem to be different in someways either by models, engines or years
my mini is a 2011 Mini Countryman S All4
need help to figure this one out
no prime or voltage when door opens, no prime or voltage when ignition is turned on.
only when the engine is turned over does the finely pump run.
when power is put to the fuel pump it runs, so fuel pump is fine.
i have tested the relay the black one at the bottom of the fuse panel inside the car and it clicks, I assume this is the fuel pump relay ? When I look on websites for the relay it shows a 5 pin relay but the one in the car is only a 4 pin.
the car was running fine until a couple of weeks ago so if this is the relay it should be the right one.
all of these minis seem to be different in someways either by models, engines or years
my mini is a 2011 Mini Countryman S All4
need help to figure this one out
#5
Did you get this resolved?
I’m having the same problem fuel pump not priming until startup
no prime or voltage when door opens, no prime or voltage when ignition is turned on.
only when the engine is turned over does the finely pump run.
when power is put to the fuel pump it runs, so fuel pump is fine.
i have tested the relay the black one at the bottom of the fuse panel inside the car and it clicks, I assume this is the fuel pump relay ? When I look on websites for the relay it shows a 5 pin relay but the one in the car is only a 4 pin.
the car was running fine until a couple of weeks ago so if this is the relay it should be the right one.
all of these minis seem to be different in someways either by models, engines or years
my mini is a 2011 Mini Countryman S All4
need help to figure this one out
no prime or voltage when door opens, no prime or voltage when ignition is turned on.
only when the engine is turned over does the finely pump run.
when power is put to the fuel pump it runs, so fuel pump is fine.
i have tested the relay the black one at the bottom of the fuse panel inside the car and it clicks, I assume this is the fuel pump relay ? When I look on websites for the relay it shows a 5 pin relay but the one in the car is only a 4 pin.
the car was running fine until a couple of weeks ago so if this is the relay it should be the right one.
all of these minis seem to be different in someways either by models, engines or years
my mini is a 2011 Mini Countryman S All4
need help to figure this one out
#7
Yes, you should here a high pitch whine when you go to unlock the car, its the low pressure fuel pump. All i can think of is get the schwaben scan tool and see if it does pull a code, some codes come up without a check engine light as they are vehicle specific codes. My guess is the relay or the fuel pump itself is weak.
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#8
I had the same problem with my 2009 JCW it turned out to be a relay in JBE that drive the low pressure fuel pump which you are unable to replace. I got myself a new JBE and it started up right away.
The relay in question is K96(the black color relay - Hella 4RA 743 555-10). I am attaching some photos for your reference. Hope they help.
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Thats good to hear.
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