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06 MC Fuel pump replacement

Old Apr 22, 2018 | 06:21 PM
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06 MC Fuel pump replacement

Hi. I have a 2006 MC with 24k miles. The fuel pump failed two days ago, and I was looking for a replacement. The oem pump is very expensive ($345), so I was looking for a cheap one.
I found that the fuel pump for vehicles from 2002 to 2004 (mfg part #16146766177) cost almost half of 2004 to 2006 pump (mfg part #16146765119). Both pumps look very similar, so I just want to know if they are interchangeable. Thanks for advice.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2018 | 06:33 PM
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Wow. 24k miles is one of the lowest I have seen. Can you share more details of the car?

Mine is 46k. I can assure you that when there are different parts for two different year range, they are not interchangeable. You need to do a bit more research to find a cheaper price OEM equivalent pump. It should not be that hard.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2018 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by pnwR53S
Wow. 24k miles is one of the lowest I have seen. Can you share more details of the car?
It is a weekend car only. Thats the low mileage reason.
This is a picture of the car (with my little girl on the roof)

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q...psza7amp2h.jpg
 
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Old Apr 23, 2018 | 05:31 AM
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It is one thing buying a low end part that is basically metal but another buying a low end electrical unit especially something that has a motor and bearings. IMO the pumps that the vendors have here, see the link in my signature below, have proven over time that they hold up.

Just my two cents . . . . .
 
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Old Apr 23, 2018 | 05:45 AM
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I agree with Whine not Walnuts regarding such a crucial and complex part, better not to skimp or you end up paying more in the long run when the substandard part fails and you have to buy another.

I also agree with pnwR53S that it isn't really too difficult to find the OEM equivalent part --- and you've done the right thing by focusing on part numbers, with the # you listed I found the VDO version and it lists at $209.95:

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-vdo-part...146765119~vdo/

It looks like the same part to my eyes, but I cannot verify.
You'd have to call them or perhaps ECS Tuning will see this and chime in because he's very very helpful in these matters.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2018 | 06:28 AM
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^^ +1 the VDO is the factory manufacturer for the Genuine MINI one above. I would just get the year/ part that fits. Otherwise, if you mod it and the next person ever tries to fix it down the road it will confuse them as the part numbers are different. Also, i can see the older ones are 3 pin and the newer ones are 5 pins plugs.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2018 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Whine not Walnuts
It is one thing buying a low end part that is basically metal but another buying a low end electrical unit especially something that has a motor and bearings. IMO the pumps that the vendors have here, see the link in my signature below, have proven over time that they hold up.

Just my two cents . . . . .
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I agree with Whine not Walnuts regarding such a crucial and complex part, better not to skimp or you end up paying more in the long run when the substandard part fails and you have to buy another.

I also agree with pnwR53S that it isn't really too difficult to find the OEM equivalent part --- and you've done the right thing by focusing on part numbers, with the # you listed I found the VDO version and it lists at $209.95:

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-vdo-part...146765119~vdo/

It looks like the same part to my eyes, but I cannot verify.
You'd have to call them or perhaps ECS Tuning will see this and chime in because he's very very helpful in these matters.
Originally Posted by ECSTuning
^^ +1 the VDO is the factory manufacturer for the Genuine MINI one above. I would just get the year/ part that fits. Otherwise, if you mod it and the next person ever tries to fix it down the road it will confuse them as the part numbers are different. Also, i can see the older ones are 3 pin and the newer ones are 5 pins plugs.
Ok. Thanks for your comments. I have been buying from ecstuning since two years ago, and they are a great shop. No doubt at all.

I am just confused, because some sellers out there are selling these fuel pump with these mfg part #s as interchangeable:
16 14 6 765 119
16 14 6 766 176
1614 6 759 955
At the pictures, they really look to be the same part. Only the plastic on the top are different color ( White / green).
 
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Old Apr 23, 2018 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Oldboy Speedwell
I agree with Whine not Walnuts regarding such a crucial and complex part, better not to skimp or you end up paying more in the long run when the substandard part fails and you have to buy another.

I also agree with pnwR53S that it isn't really too difficult to find the OEM equivalent part --- and you've done the right thing by focusing on part numbers, with the # you listed I found the VDO version and it lists at $209.95:

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-vdo-part...146765119~vdo/

and with ECS chimed in there is little to go wrong with VDO.

It looks like the same part to my eyes, but I cannot verify.
You'd have to call them or perhaps ECS Tuning will see this and chime in because he's very very helpful in these matters.


I followed your link to ECS but it says no-fit with my 05 MCS.

I independently search using realOEM number of 16146765121 (for post 7/04) and I got:
Fuel Pump W/ Fuel Level Sensor A2C53378276Z for $166 that is VDO.

That is an excellent for a OE pump with built in level sensor.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2018 | 07:47 AM
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That pump is for the MINI Cooper (NON S), think thats what the OP has. 16146765119
 
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Old Apr 23, 2018 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ECSTuning
That pump is for the MINI Cooper (NON S), think thats what the OP has. 16146765119
Thanks. Even I can be wrong sometimes. More coffee needed.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2018 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by pnwR53S


I followed your link to ECS but it says no-fit with my 05 MCS.

I independently search using realOEM number of 16146765121 (for post 7/04) and I got:
Fuel Pump W/ Fuel Level Sensor A2C53378276Z for $166 that is VDO.

That is an excellent for a OE pump with built in level sensor.
Yes, it seems that there are 2 different pumps --- one for the S and one for the Cooper,
jwbr71 has a base Cooper so that's the part # I linked to.

Part numbers are very similar:

Base
A2C53378279Z
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-vdo-part...146765119~vdo/

S
A2C53378276Z
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-vdo-part...146765121~vdo/

JimiJames sung:

Now if a 6 turned out to be 9
I don't mind, I don't mind
If all the hippies cut off all their hair
I don't care, I don't care
Dig, cause I got my own world to live through
And I ain't going to copy you

...if 6 turned out to be 9,
I don't mind,
I don't mind

Dunno what the diff is? Perhaps flow rate or something?
Just glad I gotta R53 and don't hafta do endless searches for HPFP!


Edit:

ECSTuning already answered while I was composing a response,
good man him!

pnwR53S - more coffee is always a good thing!

I recommend part # 7447100050!
 

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Old Apr 23, 2018 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Oldboy Speedwell

pnwR53S - more coffee is always a good thing!

I recommend part # 7447100050!
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I would rather stick to my no part # home roast


and yes, home roast espresso can be done with these simple contraptions



Sorry to OP for this off track excursion.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2018 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by pnwR53S
Thanks. Even I can be wrong sometimes. More coffee needed.
No problem. I had my cup of coffee, but yes i could always have more. Glad to help.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2018 | 11:42 AM
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Buy a VDO pump from rock auto
 
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Old Apr 23, 2018 | 03:21 PM
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Wait just a minute, hmmmm I had a nagging suspicion about this. The brass hammer and the special toilet had me thinking but those gloves and the coffee roaster was what made me connect the dots.

I am thinking that this pnwR53S guy is really that old hippie that runs around barefooted out in Washington State. We got you Mister Mick Dodge . . . . .

 
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Old Apr 23, 2018 | 03:22 PM
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Teach him to go off target in a thread here.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2018 | 05:05 AM
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Ok guys, thank you for all the comments.

Just for the science, I think i will buy the cheap one just to compare it with the oem pump. I will be here soon with that comparison.
Then....I will buy the right one VDO pump.

I will be back soon with the cheap vs oem pump comparison.....
 

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Old May 2, 2018 | 06:38 PM
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Hi. Im back again....
This is what I did....Just for the science

My first idea was to buy, just for testing purpose, a cheap 56 bucks pump from ebay. But, after some google search, I found information that make me think about other cheaper solution....I am talking about 20 bucks shipped pump.....yeah....you heard right....20.

I am talking about this link:

http://www.deatschwerks.com/blog/deatschwerks-goes-european-dw65v

Thats made me think that there was some similarity between the mini r50 pump, and VW jetta/beetle pump. The pictures I found at the web confirm that similarity, so I ordered one pump from ebay:

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q66/jwbr71/20180429_132447_zpsfnzyaa0w.jpg
(Old pump at the left, new at the right.)

It have a good fit with the pump case:
​​​​​​http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q66/jwbr71/20180429_133517_zps9uyvhl65.jpg

So i put all things back to the car, and the results were as expected....the car is alive again.

I know this is just a quick and very cheap solution for somebody that need a quick fix....

As I said before.....Just for the science.
 
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Old May 6, 2018 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mooser
Buy a VDO pump from rock auto
Hi everybody.
After doing some search at the web, I found some interesting information about fuel pumps of some german cars:

​​​​http://www.deatschwerks.com/blog/deatschwerks-goes-european-dw65v

Based on that information, the fuel pump of some german cars are similar, so i decided to buy an aftermarket vw fuel pump from ebay (20 bucks shipped)....
As I said before........this is "just for the science"
​​​​​http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q66/jwbr71/20180429_132447_zpsfnzyaa0w.jpg

Oem pump at left, new pump at right. The total length are the same:

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q66/jwbr71/20180429_112758_zpsvg3fcjij.jpg

and the new pump fit perfect into the oem pump case:

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q66/jwbr71/20180429_133517_zps9uyvhl65.jpg

So I put back all the stuff together, and the car is alive again and running great.






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