wtf.....i get a tapping sound when my clutch is not engaged. I have never heard this sound before? Has anyone encounter this before? Any solutions? Any comments? OMG..............this might sux......................no!!


help please help

ant

 

Yup...that's your tranny. Unfortunately I have had the same problem twice and am still waiting for my second tranny to come in so I can get it repaired. You will hear the tapping even more if your slowly rev the engine to 2000 rpms. This is the bearing from the driveshaft to the tranny but MINI will replace the whole unit because the faulty tranny is what caused the bearing to go. I would recommend you trying to get a whole new gearbox and clutch especially. My dealer will replace my clutch when my tranny comes in and I've heard them doing the same for many others with the same problem. Some have had just their shaft bearing and clutch replaced and have had the problem alleviated but I wouldn't settle for less than the whole set up. The mechanic who test drove my car said that these are sensiitive trannies but should take a beating if driven correctly. Hope that helps.

Lukee

 

Lukee,

damn really that sux................i will have to bring it to the dealership now.............damn............thanks for the info...............


ant

 

Are we talking about the Midlands 5 speed or the Getrag 6 speed?

 

i think the mini in the pic is a MCS (looks like DS/B).

if it IS the getrag 6, can you describe the sound? Is it subtle at all? Mine also makes a sort of "dok dok dok dok" sounds (but it is subtle and sounds like it is part of idling noises) and there is no effect on how my shifts are or anything performance related. The noise goes away as soon as I press in the clutch pedal. I'm guessing there is nothing wrong with mine, but i'd like to know what to be listening for just in case.

thanks and good luck with the tranny.

 

soory it is a MCS..........it sounds like something is loose....tapping kinda loud. I can really hear it when I'm out of my car. I don't see a difference in my trans but, that noise is loud. My friend noticed it the other week. And I thought it was just the ac running but I turned it off and still there......I hoping its not my tranny.....i do have a tapping sound when I acclerate as well. I had that sound from the beginning when I picked up my car. I wanted to know if anyone esle has this problem .....

thanks,

ant

p.s. I also get idle drops. sometimes.......

 

UPDATE:
I went to get my first service today and the tapping sound is a bearing that is broken in the transmisssion. My window doesn't work either so they are taking care of that. I got a MINI COOPER S loaner car. It is british green ...........it is cool. But I won't get my car back till tuesday.............



ant

 

alot of others have had this problem. I have the the same problems... tranny noise (when clutch is not engaged) and the rough idle.


I thought it would be a software problem... I had mine reset on V36 and it has not fixed it. Maybe I should try V38?

 

I will sometimes have a tapping or light knock at idle, I have not noticed if it happens with the clutch in or out. Mine will go away if I rev the engine slightly just off idle, does the tranny noise go away if revved slightly?


Thanks
Dave

 

alot of others have had this problem. I have the the same problems... tranny noise (when clutch is not engaged) and the rough idle.


Has anyone else gone to the dealership to resolve this problem? My clutch is making a loud tapping sound. You can hear it in rush hour traffic. I don't think that is normal. Can you hear your tapping sound with your windows closed? I can hear it! It is pretty loud. Some peps with this problem had the bearing replaced in the clutch. And that is what they are doing to my car.

I will sometimes have a tapping or light knock at idle, I have not noticed if it happens with the clutch in or out. Mine will go away if I rev the engine slightly just off idle, does the tranny noise go away if revved slightly?

Revving the engine only drowns the sound that the clutch makes! It doesn't go away. I only had my car for 6 months wit 10k miles. Is that normal? I don't think so.

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ant

 

My MCS has a slight "rattle" when car is idling in neutral with the clutch out. The sound goes away when I step on the clutch. Performance/function is unaffected. I believe this is a slight rattle of the transmission input bearing,which hurts nothing. It stops when there is drag on the gearbox caused by stepping on the clutch or putting it into gear. I had the same noise in a 1988 E30M3 (130K or so), only a little louder. It did not affect the performance. Running thin oil in the transmission usually contributes to the incidence of this noise. I think our transmissions use synthetic oil for wear and better economy, so it is thin and allows the rattle to occur.

the E30M3 boys on roadfly dismiss this "symptom".

http://bimmer.roadfly.org/bmw/forums...5420851-1.html

 

so what your saying it that is normal for a new car to make this noise even if it doesn't affect the performace? I hope not. This is not acceptable for a new car to make this type of noise for a car with less then 10k miles. I had a honde predule before it never made tapping sound unless something was wrong with the transmission or clutch! And I had over 100k+ miles on it. It was a slight tapping noise at first then it got louder. It was the throw-out bearing that they replaced.


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ant

 

damn...........it went out again....wat is going on...........is the throw out bearing that weak..........it is making a tapping sound not as loud.............


omg how many times is this going to happen


ant

 

I have an '05 MCS with ~7800 mi. I have also noticed a rather louder than normal dok dok sound when the clutch is out just after a cold start. It started to occur in the colder weather (<40 deg F) but I'm not sure if this is a coincidence or not. The sound goes away when I push the clutch in. After a short drive, when the engine gets up to temp, the sound goes away completely--or at least is greatly diminished to the point where I have to really strain my ears to hear it. I also do not notice any change in performance.

atn57: How have you made out with your MCS and the dealer repairs? You didn't sound too happy in that last post of yours . What year is your MCS?

 

Paulie,

I got my car back from the dealer weds. I have an 04 build mcs. They just checked it out and they didn't do anything just checked it out. He told me just if they noise gets louder or any lost of power just bring it back. But they ticking noise is just plain loud to me. But, I will just want for my second service to see if anything is wrong. But it drives good for now. Other then that the car is fine !!


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ant

 

OK, thanks. Good luck.

~Paulie

 

Same problem here. Picked up the 05 MCS on Sept 22nd, noticed the sound right off. Brought back for service and remaining installs on Oct 1st. Was told (and as printed on service ticket) no sound was found. Sound is still there. No performance hit. Ceases when clutch is depressed. Will be bringing it back in, with some key points from this thread printed out. Thanks.

 

I notice this tapping sound also when I start up and am in neutral, going to have to pay more attention to this!!!!

 

Noticed the same thing while driving my '02 S. Where are you all hearing the sound coming from when standing outside the car? I'm trying to figure out if this knocking, dok dok, ticking, etc...is the same thing I'm hearing...thanks, and I'm glad mine is still under factory warranty (along with a 7 year, 100k mile extended at that with 0 deductible)

Tony.

 

might be connected to the non recall letter I received about bringing my car in to have the trans fluid checked out... they said that some of the cars were not properly "topped off" with transmission fluid.......

 

My 2005 MCS had the same tapping-noticed it around 900 miles. Made a sound like a throw out bearing going out. Noise went away with clutch depressed. Noise will come and go. As fate would have it the noise had gone away to my ear the day I took it into the dealer for Works install and to have them take a look at clutch/transmission. Fortunately they did hear the noise and replaced the entire clutch assembly (albeit with remanufactured parts) which fixed it.

Before i took it in I researched the problem on-line through the forums and there seemed to be a mixed consensus as to whether this noise is normal perhaps due to the dual mass flywheel, or not. In my book, it's not and certainly not on a car with under 1000 miles. I also wondered about the advice letter on transmission fluids and if it tied in to this problem at all.

Tom Der
North Hampton, NH

05 MCS Works DS/W
91 M3
90 535i

 

I also had the tapping sound in neutral with the clutch out, went away when the clutch was engaged. Took it to the dealer for this and a couple other issues for repair. On mine they replaced the clutch bearing and the problem has not been fixed. If anything, it's worse...

Now I have a rattle coming from the gearbox/shifter area which is noticeable on cold start, disappearing when warmed up. It doesn't matter if the clutch is in or out, and gets louder just as you start moving before it goes away after about 1500 RPMs. At first it was that loud that I couldn't tell if the original clutch rattle was fixed! Now after a few weeks I can still hear the clutch rattle as well.

Took it in again and they say they can't hear it, so I have to drop in tomorrow to guide their selective hearing to the problem. Hopefully it decides to do it, and they can fix itonce and for all.

 

Most of you are describing noise from the throwout bearing. In my experience, this is normal and nothing to be worried about. All manual trans cars are capable of making this noise. The difference is that some TO bearings are designed better than others, which is why you can hear it on some cars and not on others. If you think what you're hearing is bad, you should hear the TO bearing noise on my Eclipse.

TO bearings that have a plastic inner sleeve typically make less noise than those with a metal inner sleeve. I dunno which the MINI has, but either way I'm not worried about it. I don't think you should be either.

 

Just spoke to my tech and he explained two types of noise problems they've experienced, and the differences between them:

Throwout bearing - predominantly at idle, disappears as revs increase, also disappears within first inch or so of clutch being depressed

Input shaft bearing - not just at idle, only disappears with clutch depressed all the way to the floor, or close to it

Thought this might help someone.

 

Sounds like the TO bearing is the noise I'm hearing on my MINI...if you say not to worry about it, or that it won't affect performance or driveability, then I can live with it....it is only at idle, whether it's sitting in front of the house running, or if I'm sitting at a stoplight waiting to go....I haven't noticed any bad driveability issues with the car...so I guess all is good. If it really annoys me to no end further down the road, I guess it wouldn't hurt to take it in just to make sure. Thanks for the explanation on that one.

Tony.