strage and interesting issue R56S
strage and interesting issue R56S
Hello everybody,
2 weeks ago I change my tensioner chain (rattle) on my R56S but timing chain move, so I decide to put the timing chain again in marks, so everything ok in this point..
next I do is put everything in order and try to start.....
Car no crank.. and I remembered that I forget to remove the pin locker to the crankshaft...
So I remove the pin locker and try to start again ....
AND...
CAR CRANK but won't start....
next I do is try to read codes with a basic scanner code reader.. and I get nothing.... "connection error" and I think that maybe code reader is failing, so I conect to other car and Code Reader is working good.
I re try to read codes in the mini and same issue... So I orderer an INPA k+DCAN on ebay
las week I tried to read Mini but I have error BIP-0009 on INPA so I Can't entry to Engine, gear box, and many others...
I can read Airbag, cluster, and many others...
well the thing is that I cant read or erase with the code reader and I cant read with INPA So..
What do you think guys? where I have to start looking for?
any ideas will be very appreciated.
PS. In some times when I turn to switch Check Engine light is not appears.
2 weeks ago I change my tensioner chain (rattle) on my R56S but timing chain move, so I decide to put the timing chain again in marks, so everything ok in this point..
next I do is put everything in order and try to start.....
Car no crank.. and I remembered that I forget to remove the pin locker to the crankshaft...
So I remove the pin locker and try to start again ....
AND...
CAR CRANK but won't start....
next I do is try to read codes with a basic scanner code reader.. and I get nothing.... "connection error" and I think that maybe code reader is failing, so I conect to other car and Code Reader is working good.
I re try to read codes in the mini and same issue... So I orderer an INPA k+DCAN on ebay
las week I tried to read Mini but I have error BIP-0009 on INPA so I Can't entry to Engine, gear box, and many others...
I can read Airbag, cluster, and many others...
well the thing is that I cant read or erase with the code reader and I cant read with INPA So..
What do you think guys? where I have to start looking for?
any ideas will be very appreciated.
PS. In some times when I turn to switch Check Engine light is not appears.
I don't know if anybody has experience with the INPA k+DCAN tool or if it even works properly with an R56. In my opinion, if you're going to buy an electronic tool you should always buy the latest OEM part, especially as electronics get more and more complex. It already sounds like it's doing a half-*** job.
I have a feeling you didn't set the timing right. You need either the BMW special tool for locking the camshafts or the aftermarket set sold by Koch tools. They will also include the crankshaft locking pin that's required for setting timing. Don't forget to buy new cam gear bolts and that there is a DIFFERENT tightening torque for each bolt!!!!
If you've got good fuel pressure in the fuel rail the engine should start relatively easily if you've set the timing perfectly.
I have a feeling you didn't set the timing right. You need either the BMW special tool for locking the camshafts or the aftermarket set sold by Koch tools. They will also include the crankshaft locking pin that's required for setting timing. Don't forget to buy new cam gear bolts and that there is a DIFFERENT tightening torque for each bolt!!!!
If you've got good fuel pressure in the fuel rail the engine should start relatively easily if you've set the timing perfectly.
Last edited by countryboyshane; Aug 23, 2012 at 05:19 AM.
I don't know if anybody has experience with the INPA k+DCAN tool or if it even works properly with an R56. In my opinion, if you're going to buy an electronic tool you should always buy the latest OEM part, especially as electronics get more and more complex. It already sounds like it's doing a half-*** job.
I have a feeling you didn't set the timing right. You need either the BMW special tool for locking the camshafts or the aftermarket set sold by Koch tools. They will also include the crankshaft locking pin that's required for setting timing. Don't forget to buy new cam gear bolts and that there is a DIFFERENT tightening torque for each bolt!!!!
If you've got good fuel pressure in the fuel rail the engine should start relatively easily if you've set the timing perfectly.
I have a feeling you didn't set the timing right. You need either the BMW special tool for locking the camshafts or the aftermarket set sold by Koch tools. They will also include the crankshaft locking pin that's required for setting timing. Don't forget to buy new cam gear bolts and that there is a DIFFERENT tightening torque for each bolt!!!!
If you've got good fuel pressure in the fuel rail the engine should start relatively easily if you've set the timing perfectly.
yes as you said a friend of mine has the special tool, I'll go ask for the tool and I will update the post...
I will write later today
thanks!
PS I will check the fuel pressure too
You need new exhaust and intake camshaft bolts too. They are one time use!
You really should use the Bentley manual. Engine timing on the N14 engine is something you really don't want to screw up
You really should use the Bentley manual. Engine timing on the N14 engine is something you really don't want to screw up
and I think my problem is maybe a electronic problem because the strange thing is that the scanner don't read ...
How did you "put the timing chain in marks"?
I can try to help you but I don't understand what you mena by this.
Did you lock the camshafts in place when you removed the tensioner? How about the crank? Did you put all the slack of the timing chain on the tensioner side of the engine?
I can try to help you but I don't understand what you mena by this.
Did you lock the camshafts in place when you removed the tensioner? How about the crank? Did you put all the slack of the timing chain on the tensioner side of the engine?
How did you "put the timing chain in marks"?
I can try to help you but I don't understand what you mena by this.
Did you lock the camshafts in place when you removed the tensioner? How about the crank? Did you put all the slack of the timing chain on the tensioner side of the engine?
I can try to help you but I don't understand what you mena by this.
Did you lock the camshafts in place when you removed the tensioner? How about the crank? Did you put all the slack of the timing chain on the tensioner side of the engine?
Hello, ok with Put the timing chain in marks I try mean that I put the Camshafts in his place with the special tool, I know there are no marks.
and yes, I locked camshafts in place, but I didn't put the slack of the timing chain on the tensioner side....
I will Do that!
today I Finally could Clear all Error Memory with INPA (today I could READ with inpa!) NOT ENGINE BUT I CAN READ CAS module and I erase all error memory and the MINI starts after 4 or 5 attemps, motor hears good
But after that, the MINI won't start anymore....
I dont know what is the meaning of this codes>
(definition is on German)
9cb5 batterie tiefentladen
9cad energiesparmode aktive
d365 can botschaft pt can torque
a116 elv sg abbruch fheler
a0ae energiesparemode
A86E unterspannung
c910 pt can ID 1b6
A0B4 fehler Motor start anlasserbetrieb
A0AE Energiesparmode
A116 abbruch fehler
Clean the error memory one more time. But I didn't have luck anymore, The mini do not start anymore...
the OBD code reader still can't read..
Only the INPA can read the errors
Im looking the definitions of the error codes, but I cant found complete list of BMW fault codes.
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So you locked the camshafts in place, okay thats very good. How about the crank, did you lock that one in place also?
All the slack of the chain has got to be on the tensioner side of the engine, so what you need to do is loosen the bolts for the cams and the crank so that the sprockets rotate freely, while they are still locked and install the tensioner. Once the tensioner is installed you want to torque down the three bolts you loosened.
Of course the bolts are one time use and should be replace.
All the slack of the chain has got to be on the tensioner side of the engine, so what you need to do is loosen the bolts for the cams and the crank so that the sprockets rotate freely, while they are still locked and install the tensioner. Once the tensioner is installed you want to torque down the three bolts you loosened.
Of course the bolts are one time use and should be replace.
So you locked the camshafts in place, okay thats very good. How about the crank, did you lock that one in place also?
All the slack of the chain has got to be on the tensioner side of the engine, so what you need to do is loosen the bolts for the cams and the crank so that the sprockets rotate freely, while they are still locked and install the tensioner. Once the tensioner is installed you want to torque down the three bolts you loosened.
Of course the bolts are one time use and should be replace.
All the slack of the chain has got to be on the tensioner side of the engine, so what you need to do is loosen the bolts for the cams and the crank so that the sprockets rotate freely, while they are still locked and install the tensioner. Once the tensioner is installed you want to torque down the three bolts you loosened.
Of course the bolts are one time use and should be replace.
Hi Joey, Yes I locked the crankshaft too, in fact the problem I think starts because I forgot remove the crankshaft pin lock, after that thing I can't start the car again.
Yesterday the car started but only once
I checked if there are spark but There isn't
My Throttle body is not responding........
When I read my Body ID I have this
vehicle Identification NR 0000000
Here is supposed to be a vin or number right?

When I read my CAN Ignition Key I have
Immobilization system signal Invalid

What I have to read here??? is this signal invalid ok?
How I can re coding this? I read NCS expert beginner guide but nothing about coding...
and my remote control Is not working too.
hElP please.
My Throttle body is not responding........
When I read my Body ID I have this
vehicle Identification NR 0000000
Here is supposed to be a vin or number right?

When I read my CAN Ignition Key I have
Immobilization system signal Invalid

What I have to read here??? is this signal invalid ok?
How I can re coding this? I read NCS expert beginner guide but nothing about coding...
and my remote control Is not working too.
hElP please.
thanks for the comment
So Anybody help me to code my car please, help!
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