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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 08:40 AM
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Brake and DSC Light

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I have 04 MCS that is out of warranty. The brake light on the tack is lit red all the time and the DSC is lit in yellow. From reading here they seem to be related as the DSC will not work with a brake problem. I took it to an import shop and they told me the brake pads and sensors needed to be replaced. After a little research it appeared to me that the brake pad warning light was with the speedometer and probably not my problem. I have checked the brake fluid level and the ebrake seems to fully disengaged. Does this light need to be reset or does anyone have any suggestions as what can cause this?
 
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 08:52 AM
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A failed wheel speed sensor causes that combination of lights. They both function on wheels speed indication.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 04:55 PM
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Can the brake pads cause the red brake light on the tach. to come on?
 
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by skiman747
Can the brake pads cause the red brake light on the tach. to come on?
No, the pads will only turn on the brake lining light.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 11:33 AM
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Does the wheel speed sensor also light up the ABS light? Mine only has the brake and the DSC lights.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 08:52 AM
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Bad wheel speed sensors can cause a variety of issues
 
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 08:55 AM
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ABS and DSC can't function without

the wheel speed sensor. Nor can the ASC+T or any of the other TLAs.

The wheel speed sensor is how the car knows one wheel is spinning or locking up. Or flat!

Matt
 
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 08:41 AM
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Bump from way back - yes, when I search, I search :nod:

Mine started this yesterday (brake and DSC light only) - I had 'educated guess'-ed this, but any way to tell WHICH wheel sensor?
And is there a chance this is "dirty" vs. "bad"? (like the DSC/TPS on and off issue)
 

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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 12:46 PM
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You need a scan tool that can read the ABS system. Your standard cheapo ODBII scanner can't do this. So it's either a trip to a dealer or independent mechanic. Chances are it's going to be one of the front wheels. Since it's the same part on both sides, you can just replace one side and see if it goes away. If not, take the part you removed (which you now know is still good) and place it on the other side.

I'm pretty sure you can't just clean them and that they will have to be replaced. I wouldn't even try anyway with such a critical safety component.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 11:11 AM
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A few days after this happened I noticed the brake pedal getting "squishy" (technical term), traced to a rusted / leaking brake line to passenger's side rear wheel.*
Replaced the hard line firewall-to-rear, got it bled and (shazam!) the lights were out and have not returned.
So it may NOT be the wheel speed sensor...
* '02, 91k miles, lived all it's life in Vermont or Northern New York - part of the "charm" of the Northest
 
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