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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 08:04 AM
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Bold threads with new message doesn't work for me.

Anyone able to suggest a cause for...

When I enter a forum the threads that have messages new to me are bold. If I read all those and reload the page they're no longer bold.
If I close the browser and reopen & return they're all bold (marked unread) again. I am of course logged in in all cases.

Even if I read all and none are bold, if I just minimize that browser and open a new window they're all marked as unread (bold) again. Go back to the first browser and it's correct.

I've added NAM to my trusted sites thinking it was a cookie issue but no joy.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 08:11 AM
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It sounds like a cookie issue to me too. Does the site attempt to log you out at any point as well?
 
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 08:25 AM
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Nope, stays logged in OK, and even if I close all browsers or shut down and start up I'm auto logged in so seems like the cookies are working at least to that extent.

I shoulda said I.E. 6.x Still tweaking here looking at security and cookies...
 
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 10:49 AM
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Mark - can you clear all the northamericanmotoring.com cookies from IE, log back into the site, and see how the new/read threads are displayed?

Regardless of cookies do you have any type of Internet Firewall that may be caching content? I suspect that the problem you are seeing is that the pages are being cached since displaying in bold is a HTML tag. If controlled by the cookie it should not have this tag. One possible test is to:

1) Log into the site
2) See the list of unread threads in a forum
3) Mark all as read
4) Reload the thread list of the forum and see if the threads are listed in bold or not.
5) Quit and relaunch the browser
6) Go to the same forum to check for the bolding
7) Reload the page by hitting the reload button
8) See if the bolding goes away (if not the page is getting cached by your browser, internet firewall, or a proxy that your machine is sitting behind)

Mark
 
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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Hmm, tired all this out to see.

All three machines I've tested still lose track and make everything from today unread if I oopen a new browser. All machines set to check page everytime, cleared the cache, reload page by hand.

Thing is, one machine is on my work T1 w pix firewall, one is on a standalone Verizon DSL with old Linksys firmware due to compatability issue with verizon, and the third I remoted to at home is on *** cable with Linksys and latest firmware. None of these networks have a proxy server though no telling what the ISP's are doing but seems weird that all three do the same thing.

Oh well, I should spend less time browsing and just look at the ones I get email notifications on!

Just noticed that some of the threads that are bolded for unread are even one's I was the last poster to!
 
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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Mark - I'm seeing the same behavior under OS X and using Firefox. Given this I'm wondering if the way it really works is that its based on a day's posts. For example if you mark all the threads today as being read and come back tomorrow morning it should only show the new threads/posts since midnight. Let me know if this theory sheds any light.

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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark
Mark - I'm seeing the same behavior under OS X and using Firefox. Given this I'm wondering if the way it really works is that its based on a day's posts. For example if you mark all the threads today as being read and come back tomorrow morning it should only show the new threads/posts since midnight. Let me know if this theory sheds any light.

Mark
It wasn't always this way. I could read all posts so that there were no new ones, quit my browser, come back 10 minutes later and all that was BOLD were the threads with new messages in the 10 minutes I was absent.

Something has changed somewhere.

OS X Firefox, Safari, Opera, and Omni Web
Win XP IE 6 and 7

Comcast no proxy, no caching
Univ of Pittsburgh no proxy, no caching

Steve
 
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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 09:32 PM
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We haven't made any changes to the server or the software in quite some time (months). The only thing I can point to would be a browser upgrade (I'm seeing the same problem with Firefox but didn't pay much attention to how it worked in previous versions) and/or caching by the ISP/Internet Firewall.

Mark
 
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