If you can't dispute it online, you can also contact Paypal over the phone to file the dispute.I know it's a pain, but when your out $400+, it's steps you'd have to take.

I'm sorry this happened to you, but as Drew said, I also Paypaled a user almost $1,000 for an aero kit. I checked how long he has been on NAM, his reputation and etc and even spoke with him over the phone and AIM. 95% of the parts I have on my car is from the NAM marketplace, and 100% of the transactions were successful. We strongly advise everyone to use discretion and good judgement when making purchases from other members.

 

You want to see the $8000 bill I got to change my upstairs to hardwood floors? Or the $2400 bill for the painting of the whole house? Im not ignoring anyone here, Im not always here but I leave the computer on an my adium is running whenever the computer is on.

I shipped USPS on the smaller items because it was convenient. I shipped the floor mats via Fedex because it weighs more and the box is bigger. I shipped them to the address that was provided. I have delivery confirmation on USPS and a tracking number for fedex. I shipped both from a Mail Box place who placed all the tracking info on one sheet of paper which I know I kept but currently cant find because still havent had time to unpack all the boxes.

I called Mr. Salahari at the mail box place and was told he was going to call back. I called Mr. Sanchez at the post office and he said he was going to call back. I called Ms. Rollins at fedex who says she cant help me unless I have the tracking number but will look into the matter.

He paid with a paypal account that wasn't his, I shipped to a non-confirmed or verified address. So if I dont find the packages, Im out the products and the $150 since paypal wont protect me either.

Please feel free to message people who bought from me as well as vendors who have dealt with me. Way at Wayout.. I purchased a ton of stuff from him. Lyle from Vinyl Styles wrapped almost the entire car and I hung out at his place and referred a ton of new people to his shop.. I addition to my wife's custom pink mini, I have a Mercedes ML and an E46 fully custom M3 convertible. Why in the word would I try to scam you for $150?

 

I think I may have just been a victim of USPS. I shipped an item out in a Flat Rate Priority Mail Box on the 3rd, and I just checked the tracking number and it still says that it has only been accepted where I shipped it from. I should have been delivered by now.... WTF!!!

 

Remember...the tracking numbers are to protect the shipper....so they can PROVE something was shipped, and delivered (even an empty box)....just in case a dishonest buyer claims they never arrived....Either side could be at fault (a bad I-trader rating could be because the item was not as described, late or otherwise defective, but IMO, failure to ship is a LEGAL matter, since that is theft, rather than poor salesmanship)....it is up to those partaking in these transactions to ensure their butts are covered.....the old "TRUST BUT VERIFY" line comes to mind......

 

There's way around this. You can bring the package to the police station to open it. You can open it with the mailman there watching you. You can record a video of yourself opening the package. It's actually one of the tips I've learned when opening an expensive package.

 

What difference does it make if you shipped to a non confirmed address??? It is still a US address where you can easily prove that you shipped the stuff and I received them.

I never said you scammed me. I never said you did not ship the items.

All I am saying is that I made the payment but did not receive the packages. I am not at fault. Maybe you are not at fault either and shipped the stuff on time. but at the end, you got the money and i didn't get the stuff.

I cannot claim the money through usps or fedex but you can. it is your problem that the shipping company lost the packages not mine.

I really think that you mistyped the address when you shipped them. I double checked it in the PMs and I do know that I gave you the correct address.

 

here is the latest update.
he says he definitely shipped the items.
the only thing is that I did not receive anything.
What has to be done is this. He should refund me back my money and he should get his from the shipping companies who lost the packages.
Since he cannot find the tracking numbers, he cannot do a claim.
Even though it is not my fault that the items were not delivered and that he lost the tracking numbers, the right thing to do is for him to refund the money.

But since he has the control over everything now, looks like I will get punished for everything because he won't be a stand up guy and take the loss for his fault, but make me suffer.

Just don't understand why I should be the one taking a loss on this??

He can't prove that he shipped the items. I am not saying he didn't maybe he did but if he did, he should be responsible for keeping the tracking number. I shouldn't be punished for something that is between him and the shipping companies

 

Just a friendly reminder:

 

Sorry ML Pearson79, but respectfully CooperOne TR is right and BigPDub is wrong.

BigPDub should refund the money.

If I was CooperOne TR I'd be ALOT less respectful.

 

I do believe the post about the guidelines was referring to some spectators of the situation that had gone too far.

The purpose of this thread is to resolve the dispute, and many are providing counter productive input.

 

No worries. USPS does not provide live tracking, only delivery confirmation. Once the package arrives at it's destination, it will show all the data but not until then.

 

While I feel your pain, when buying / selling from anyone on the internet, inherintly there are acceptable risks involed by both parties. If you are not willing to accept those risks then don't do the deal. But, if the deal goes bad, all you can do is what we have all suggested. Follow what legal avenues you have to pursue starting with paypal !

In your case, until Paypal completes their process, which takes about month, everyone should be patient. That is, unless your point here is a public lashing of the seller.......? I think you made your point.

Hopefully this will all work out, and when it does we are all interested in the outcome. But until then to futher lament on such issues and disperage the integrity of another member here, more often than not can be counterproductive to the positive end result you seek.....

Good luck.

 

I know, thats what I have been using. It shipped the 3rd and it is now the 12th... I used priority mail so it should have been there by now.

 

You can call USPS toll free number, provide them the tracking no. they can then locate your package.

 

LATEST UPDATES!!!

I CHECKED WITH MY MAILBOX COMPANY AND REALIZED THAT THEY RECEIVED A BOX FROM P.WONG
I CHECKED THE SELLERS MYSPACE TO FIND OUT HIS NAME AND APPARENTLY THE BOX IS FROM HIM.

ONE BOX DELIVERED!!

HERE IS WHAT USPS SHOWS

Detailed Results:
Delivered, March 05, 2010, 1:49 pm, BRADENTON, FL 34203 Sorting Complete, March 04, 2010, 9:17 am, BRADENTON, FL 34203 Arrival at Unit, March 04, 2010, 7:39 am, BRADENTON, FL 34203 Processed through Sort Facility, March 03, 2010, 3:38 am, TAMPA, FL 33605 Processed through Sort Facility, March 01, 2010, 9:48 pm, SAN FRANCISCO, CA 94188 Electronic Shipping Info Received, February 10, 2010
SHIPPED ON FEB 10TH, PROCESSED ON MARCH 1ST ??

ANYWAYS, GLAD THAT ONE BOX SHOWED UP WITH THE FEDEX BOX STILL REMAIN UNKNOWN.

HOPEFULLY THE SELLER WILL FIND THE TRACKING NUMBER FOR THE FEDEX PACKAGE AND WE WILL BE DONE WITH THIS.

I TRIED TO CONTACT HIM VIA AIM BUT GUESS HE IS NOT IN FRONT OF HIS COMPUTER. WAITING FOR HIS REPLY...

 

Glad to see progress being made...

 

Good to see you are making progress....having worked for UPS directly, as a package handler, and having flown many thousands of hours with boxes in the back of my plane, and getting paid by UPS, USPS, and FedEx, I can say that while theft is possible, and losses do occur, the percentage is very low....all 3 companys know what is at stake, and watch their people closely, the boxes, trucks, and planes.....
The time between the shipping info beaing transmitted and ups showing they actually processed the package is most likely from the label getting printed, but the package not actually getting dropped off/picked up. Any other delays would be reflexed in the shipping/tracking history as an exception...shipper speak for the box missed a connection, was late internally, or just got misrouted, etc.
What counts...mostly anyway, is that you got one box so far...but I would say shame on you for not knowing something had been delivered.....makes be wonder who is actually the problem...slow shippers suck...but to continue complaining about a missing shipment when the box has arrived.......

 

Since the shipper stated the paypal account was not in the buyers name...he was likely waiting a few days to make sure the account was not beaing used in a fradulent manner.....who can blame him for beaing careful...afterall it is so easy to setup an account...why use a friends? Waiting a few weeks for shipping is not great...but getting paid by an unknown 3rd party when a sale is made is kinda odd.....both sides here have errors....I just hope you are both honest enough to cut through the BS...and settle up.

 

CooperOne, how is it the box was delivered March 5 but you didn't realize it until March 12??
Yesterday you stated you hadn't received anything.

Good news is that you got the box which was least likely to be tracked. Fedex has a much more sophisticated tracking system.

 

here is why...

I used to live in the states for 10 years. Now I am back in Europe. I do still have my US bank account and everything in the US.

The reason I paid him via a friend's account was because I had problems with paypal after I moved to Europe. They blocked my account thinking someone else is using it and although I proved them that it was me, they said they cannot activate the account back because it was not frozen but blocked. Told them 1000 times on the phone that this is BS but they didn't do anything and also kept my paypal balance for 6 months and then released it.

I told him it was OK for him to wait until the payment is cleared. As everyone can see, it's been more than 1 month and no chargeback BS or anything.

Again, I am not saying that he did not ship the items. All I am saying is this. The package might have been lost in the mail but why am I getting punished for this and not getting my money back where he can pay me back and claim his from FedEx.

 

If you read my last message, I am not in the states right now. Lived there for 10 years though and moved back to Europe last year.

There is a place called MyUS.com this is like a big mailbox place where you get your stuffed shipped to. Everytime you receive a package, they email you saying, "You have received a package from ....." and then they keep the stuff there and then when you make a ship request, they make a box with all the stuff you have there. (you can combine 3 4 different packages received from different places) and they'll put a low amount invoice so that you don't get custom taxes etc...

Long story short, the reason I didn't realize was that there is no description on the box. Normally, whenever I receive a package they tell you where it is from and what is included in the box. This one did not give any info and only said sender: p.**** and item list: auto hardware kit

I was expecting lots of packages from different places so I had no idea that that box was from his. (It had been more than 3 weeks since he said he shipped it out, didn't expect for it to arrive 3 weeks later)

I wasn't lying or anything. Still not normal that I waited 3 weeks for the box to arrive. Everyone in my situation would freak out. Now hopefully he will find the FedEx tracking number and we can find the 2nd and last package

 

Ah, interesting. Definitely a more complex situation than the norm! Good luck with the rest of the shipment! Where in Europe are you living?

 

Turkey...

 

sounds like the issue might be with who is accepting the shippments for you...you just stated they are dishonest....not a big to leap for them to make a package disappear....the fact that they did't recieve anything till after said you had a tracking number......
I bet the second box will be "lost" at the shippers till you prove it was delivered.....
In the future I would have a realitive accept the shipments for you, the ship it to you labeled as a "gift"....that would fix you tax/customs problem, and avoid dealing with an obviouly dishonest company that will vilolate rules to make a $$...if they will do it to make a buck, why not do it to make more on the side?!

 

log into their website and see it for yourself. I can send you their website info on PM if you want. so that it won't look like I am advertising.

They are a multi million company. not a local mailbox place.

they have probably 10.000+ customers worldwide and I probably got $50.000+ worth of shipments from them. do you really think that they would risk something like that on a cooper gp floormat?? :D don't think so

also how can they take a risk like that when the sender can prove that the package got delivered by just providing the tracking number??

for what you are saying to be true, it had to happen like this:

First they had to guess that the seller were going to lose the tracking numer.
out of all 30 packages probably that I received within the last month, they had to choose that specific one.
The guy who steals it has to have a mini and he needs some floormats (because I bought like 20 mini cooper parts and everything was delivered with no problems)
sorry bro but I do own a turbo s2000 that has more than $40.000 worth of parts on it. It has ASM dry carbon doors that are worth $8.000 and probably less than 10 people in the world have it on their cars. That, I get delivered with no problems but they took my floormats that are worth $50??

Doesn't anyone realize that it has been more than 1 week since the seller posted? He doesn't worry about what is happening. He doesn't even bother checking this topic. He'll probably chime in within the next 10 days making excuses again for renovating his house
He sent me a PM on the 5th saying he'll check for the tracking number and send it to me the next day because he knew it was over there somewhere. Well it's been 10 days with nothing. He doesn't even bother to say "hey still looking for it. I'll also call fedex to get some info for you etc."
Why would he care? He got my money, he doesn't have anything to lose...