Solo Cornering on 3 wheels - good or bad?

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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 01:18 AM
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The only thing bad about the R56 raising one of the rear tires is for a Left Foot Brake driver. When the brakes are applied with a wheel off the ground, the ECU thinks you are on ice since the up wheel locks up and the others are spinning. This kicks the ECU into Ice Mode, but, you have to really be tossing the car around to get it to do this. One thing to note though, I had this issue while another Left Foot Braker didn't, but, I was a bit more aggressive. To combat this issue, we dropped our rebound way down in the rear to 1 turn or so off full soft to allow for the wheel to drop down a bit easier(stiffer rebound keeps tire up in the air, softer allows it to come back down easier). We typically ran stiffer compression in the rear and had a bit higher pressure in the rear as well to allow for needed rotation. However, if you only have off the shelf Koni's or stock shocks....
 

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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 01:16 PM
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well i'll be damned - i had assumed that the three wheeled minis were at full droop (out of travel) on the raised corner!

SA shocks, right? cannot add compression on the front?
 
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Old Mar 8, 2009 | 11:19 AM
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I drove VWs in Solo for a while and they ALWAYS dog-leg around corners. The only time this is a problem is when you have a set of tightly packed elements that demand hard cornering in both directions and you don't have enough time/space to get that lifted wheel down and gripping. Having 3 wheels on the ground doesn't diminish your time except in the above-mentioned scenario. When we were racing our old VW, we fixed the issue with a limited slip diff and polyurethane bushings but were racing in Street Prepared. If you want to remain in Stock then shocks may help but in the end it's not something to worry about unduly. Just don't go into a course dead set on getting no wheel lift; not staying in the moment will hurt your time more than a tire picking up for a few feet.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 06:44 PM
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+1.
I've even seen a VW tripod in the wet.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 06:55 PM
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OK. What is the 'dog pee' maneuver?
 
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by rrcaniglia
OK. What is the 'dog pee' maneuver?
The airborne inside rear wheel results in a stance that is likened to that of a urinating male dog. Sporty VWs of certain vintages in particular are associated with this tendency.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 05:48 AM
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one should probably avoid doing a dog pee maneuver in the midst of a bootleg turn -- for obvious reasons...

 
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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by OasisT
The only thing bad about the R56 raising one of the rear tires is for a Left Foot Brake driver. When the brakes are applied with a wheel off the ground, the ECU thinks you are on ice since the up wheel locks up and the others are spinning. This kicks the ECU into Ice Mode, but, you have to really be tossing the car around to get it to do this. One thing to note though, I had this issue while another Left Foot Braker didn't, but, I was a bit more aggressive. To combat this issue, we dropped our rebound way down in the rear to 1 turn or so off full soft to allow for the wheel to drop down a bit easier(stiffer rebound keeps tire up in the air, softer allows it to come back down easier). We typically ran stiffer compression in the rear and had a bit higher pressure in the rear as well to allow for needed rotation. However, if you only have off the shelf Koni's or stock shocks....
I bet even the ABS gets confused when 3 wheeling at hard corners, especially at higher speed and aggressive braking such as RSR Motorsports MINIs in KONI Challenge
 
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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 10:14 AM
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One thing is for sure true: everything that there is to be gained by going to zero traction inside, rear is gained in full with the wheel just off the ground. Gross wheel lift is most likely a sign of poor set-up or class rules that restrict tuning options. Such a car will underperform in transitions, and, if the wheel lift is tuned in with excessive shock forces, will suffer the effects that go along with a bound up suspension.
 
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