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Old May 31, 2008 | 05:46 AM
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Nice setup compared to some, but understand again that it's not within any organization rules. Not within the rules "may" not be an issue for you in HPDE, but it could be, even though this is just a roll "bar" and not a race cage.
That rear X brace would be fine as 'an addition' to the straight rear diagonals that are required, but missing from this particular design.
Harness bar looks VERY good in the picture. Nice height and close to the seats. BUT, missing harness guides.
That seat back brace that Nate pictured is nice. Rules state that any non FIA seat must have this type of brace.
Again, I am talking what's needed to pass club race techs. Nothing I mention may come into play at an HPDE, but being I've been through all of this myself, I just want you to be aware of what's correct and what's not. Two reasons. One is your life, and the other is so you can pass tech if you had to.
 

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Old May 31, 2008 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by garylimey
Who makes this cage and where do the rear braces bolt down? Is it on top of the rear shock towers?
It custom made, I'll get you the shops name if you like.
 
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Old May 31, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by emmathecheesedog
It custom made, I'll get you the shops name if you like.
Yes please and where are they located?
 
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Old Jun 1, 2008 | 07:45 AM
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this is a timely thread for me. thanks to all who have responded. i am debating the x-braces (in addition to the required straight braces). i would love the additional chassis stiffness that these would provide, but i would give up the ability to transport my track wheels/tires without my friends' trailers. do these limit visibilty from the rear view mirror? i have spent much of this morning looking at SCCA, NASA and others tubing size requirements. am i correct that 1.5 X 0.120 DOM tubing is sufficient for a car under 3000 lbs.?
 
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Old Jun 1, 2008 | 08:13 AM
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bean..

As you've seen I only have one cross brace and it hinders my ability to carry 4 wheels/tires. I have to get really creative and then have no room for anything else like a helmet or jack in the hatch. It's not been a real issue since I stepped back from Hoosiers to R888's that I can swap at home and drive to the track on.

I do have a sport link and 2" hitch in the garage that I keep threatening to install. Just looking for that perfect trailer I can stand up in my garage when not in use.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2008 | 08:39 AM
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thanks for the input, gnatster. i guess my car won't be driven to the track much longer...trailers and MINI's.....they just don't seem to work together. i might reconsider, however....
 
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Old Jun 1, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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now now Bean, you know any HPDE we all do together you have a trailer ready for you!

The official MINI car hauler - extra tire carrier - fuel can transporter of SSM.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by LgEnf
now now Bean, you know any HPDE we all do together you have a trailer ready for you!

The official MINI car hauler - extra tire carrier - fuel can transporter of SSM.
yea, i know that you have me covered when we are running together, but what if i want to run one that you don't?
 
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Old Jun 9, 2008 | 04:10 PM
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After receiving some good advice about track cars and the obvious potential for ruining a nice GP I've decided to buy a already track prepped older car that I wont mind beating up a bit.
Thanks every one for your input, see you at the track
 
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by garylimey
After receiving some good advice about track cars and the obvious potential for ruining a nice GP I've decided to buy a already track prepped older car that I wont mind beating up a bit.
Thanks every one for your input, see you at the track
I've got a car I'll make you a good deal on.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by garylimey
After receiving some good advice about track cars and the obvious potential for ruining a nice GP I've decided to buy a already track prepped older car that I wont mind beating up a bit.
Thanks every one for your input, see you at the track
+1 on the beater track car!
 
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MINIGURU@WAY MOTOR WORKS
I've got a car I'll make you a good deal on.
I just paid for the new(1994) car today and it will be ready for me next week, but I sure would have liked that mini if that is the one.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by garylimey
I just paid for the new(1994) car today and it will be ready for me next week, but I sure would have liked that mini if that is the one.
Need any help building this up then please feel free to contact me.
What is it and what are your plans?
 
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by onasled
Need any help building this up then please feel free to contact me.
What is it and what are your plans?
It's a 968 that has had quite a bit of track prep done, it has a 6 point cage, harnesses, quick release steering wheel, 3 sets of wheels, cross coilovers and better brakes. Fortunately the engine is stock, which will be better for me to become a better driver in. All I'm doing to it for now is putting in new sparco evo seats and some new street tyres.
Once I've done a couple of events and decided if I really like the car then probably the 1st performance thing I would do is take weight off the car.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 06:52 PM
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That will be one fun track car. Slower then the Mini, but a very balanced car. You should have a blast with that.
Hans, Hans, Hans, Hans.....
 
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by onasled
That will be one fun track car. Slower then the Mini, but a very balanced car. You should have a blast with that.
Hans, Hans, Hans, Hans.....
, I have the Hans sport with sliding tether which makes it easier to get the hans and helmet on seperately, I couldn't do both together, it drove me nuts

Once I become a good track driver in this car I will consider tuning the engine, however I'm told I can get the weight of the car down to 2650 lbs which would make a healthy differance and still be reliable.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by garylimey
Who makes this cage and where do the rear braces bolt down? Is it on top of the rear shock towers?
Bump on this vendor... Who makes this cage?
 
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 02:53 PM
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it is done....

i picked up my car from the cage fabricator yesterday. i am thrilled with the result. here are a few pics...







i messed up the mounting of the passenger seat the last (of about 8) times that i had it out. it will be reinstalled tomorrow.

Race Car Builders of South Florida did the fabrication and install. i think that the cage is strong and safe and looks great. a little more work required to install the harnesses. Race Car Builders did install the backing plates and bolts for the sub straps and the inboard ends of the lap belts. they also removed my oem belts and tensioners.

i cannot wait to get back on track.

photos by mct and MotoringFun.com. more details, photos and a short video can be seen at http://www.motoringfun.com/
 

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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 03:08 PM
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Now it's time for the removable steering wheel.

Looks real nice, quite the maze of pipes. Wait till you see how the stiff the rear is now. Flex be gone!!
 
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 04:03 PM
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gnatster (or anyone else who has gone here): what changes in vehicle dynamics should i anticipate? i think that the car will rotate faster. in the past, i have had to use trail braking or lifting the thottle a bit to get the car to rotate (although not much). i was very comfortable w/ my cars handling before and i'm sure that i will have to re-learn the feeling. contrary to conventional wisdom, i'm also adding a quaiffe lsd, lightend flywheel and stage 4 cluth while making these other changes. i'll also have new wheels and will be experimenting w/ a new tire. Sebring should be fun. hopefully i'll have i sorted out before daytona.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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Great job bean, 2nd that on the quick release steering wheel, I love the new Sparco wheel I've been trying for the last week.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 08:31 PM
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Wow ... Nice setup for sure man
 
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Old Aug 3, 2008 | 06:08 PM
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while changing rotors, i had the following observation.....when jacking from the front jack point, the rear wheel cleared the ground before the front. this is not normal for me.... i think that the chassis is now "stiff".
 
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bean
while changing rotors, i had the following observation.....when jacking from the front jack point, the rear wheel cleared the ground before the front. this is not normal for me.... i think that the chassis is now "stiff".
Funny that I came across this post. While jacking the drivers side of the MINI, the rear lifts before the front. On the passenger side - the front lifts about 2-3 inch's before the rear lifts! Suspension settings are the same side to side.....what would be the cause of this?
 
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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strange...mine was the same on both sides.
 
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