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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 04:37 PM
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Sorry to hear that - mine is back in tomorrow so I will report the outcome.. I don't think this is a design flaw as I have heard many people talking about how impressed they are at how noiseless their R56 sunroof is, shame we aren't one of them
 
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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Yeah, good luck to you. If they do fix it, can you ask them what they specifically did. My MA just says 'we adjusted it".
 
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 09:20 AM
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Hi again - just picked my car up and they seem to have fixed the problem, 'seem' being the word.. Did a motorway run and I couldn't hear any rattling sounds or wind noise, opening and closing it a few times to make sure it stayed the same..

Apparently they replaced the roller bars (although the guy at servicing doesn't know much) but in general they have now replaced all the parts that make up the sunroof apart from the glass itself..

I'll report back in a few days to let you know if the noises have returned..
 
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 07:49 PM
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Thanks for letting me know. I'm booking mine in for visit number three tomorrow.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by BritBoy
Thanks for letting me know. I'm booking mine in for visit number three tomorrow.
It's been two days since visit number two for me and the fix IS HOLDING. In my case I was told that the roof was installed asymmetrically. IE the gap on the left was too large and the gap on the right too small. The dealer "squared" it up.

While driving I am still aware that my car does not have a fixed roof. On the other hand, it doesn't sound like I am going 100mph when I am going 10mph. There is now an impression of solidity and quality that the noise destroyed before.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Lightfoot
It's been two days since visit number two for me and the fix IS HOLDING. In my case I was told that the roof was installed asymmetrically. IE the gap on the left was too large and the gap on the right too small. The dealer "squared" it up.

While driving I am still aware that my car does not have a fixed roof. On the other hand, it doesn't sound like I am going 100mph when I am going 10mph. There is now an impression of solidity and quality that the noise destroyed before.
Lightfoot, is the roof completely silent now? I mean no wind noise at all even at 70mph? I ask cos now that I've opened and closed the roof a few times, the noise has definitely been reduced. Now I'm beginning to wonder if I'm expecting it to be completely silent like if it didn't have a sunroof. Maybe I've just become paranoid
 
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 11:46 AM
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BritBoy, the sunroof CAN be silent--mine is, and I'm a week 3 build.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 12:23 PM
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Another week three build here.... Mine was adjusted and is certainly quietER, but not silent after it hits 70mph and above. With music playing I don't notice at all, but w/ windows and sunroof closed, and music off, I hear a highpitch wind noise. It isn't a constant sound, so I wonder if outside wind is in play here. SHOULD it be silent? I've never had a sunroof before. I'd probably bring it in until they fix it, but the dealer is an hour away, traffic is a drag, blah blah blah...
 
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by daffodildeb
BritBoy, the sunroof CAN be silent--mine is, and I'm a week 3 build.
Is it completely silent or is it like Daffs and mine. I'm thinking if I take it back again they may make it worse.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 04:00 PM
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Good News!!

We got the Mini back today. Easy fix, lets see if it'll last.

If you look at the rails, there are 3 bolts on each side, left and right. All they did was loosen the bolts, push the glass up and foward just a bit and retightened the bolts. You can now see where the factory initially tightened the bolts and now where the technician retightened the bolts in the new position. No more wind noise. They did this for the front and rear.
 

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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by S2ki.com
Good News!!

We got the Mini back today. Easy fix, lets see if it'll last.

If you look at the rails, there are 3 bolts on each side, left and right. All they did was loosen the bolts, push the glass up and foward just a bit and retightened the bolts. You can now see where the factory initially tightened the bolts and now where the technician retightened the bolts in the new position. No more wind noise. They did this for the front and rear.

Sounds like it might be a DIY!
 
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by MotorMouth
Sounds like it might be a DIY!
Yup, I was thinking the same when i was looking at the bolts...
 
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 11:37 AM
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Ok I haven't really been far since it was 'fixed' so can't report anything yet.. I have however noticed today that the guy that was working on my roof obviously had a zip or buckle on his clothes which has scratched my paintwork!

There are about five or six small scratches near the top of the passenger door Will go to my dealership on Monday. Just can't believe this, I wanted to keep my paintwork perfect - it's less than 8 weeks old! Whatever they do to remove the scratches it's unlikely to be perfect..
 
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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DIY?

Does this look like a DIY job for those of us who have the noise issue?
I wish someone could post pics & "instructions". What kind of fastener is it?
(size, tools needed?)
Hope this does the trick. Thanks to everyone for keeping up the fight.
I am tired of the racket myself.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 10:43 PM
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What does the sunroof look like now from the outside compared to before? I assume the bolt adjustment you mentioned pushed the glass up and forward a bit. How does the sunroof fit the roof now? Is it flush, above or below the roof line after the adjustment and on which panels?

Thanks

Originally Posted by S2ki.com
Good News!!

We got the Mini back today. Easy fix, lets see if it'll last.

If you look at the rails, there are 3 bolts on each side, left and right. All they did was loosen the bolts, push the glass up and foward just a bit and retightened the bolts. You can now see where the factory initially tightened the bolts and now where the technician retightened the bolts in the new position. No more wind noise. They did this for the front and rear.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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I'm giving Mini another chance, before venturing down the DIY road. They definitely improved it last time, so I'm hoping for fix this time. (Booking her back in to the dealer this week)
 
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by johnnosek
What does the sunroof look like now from the outside compared to before? I assume the bolt adjustment you mentioned pushed the glass up and forward a bit. How does the sunroof fit the roof now? Is it flush, above or below the roof line after the adjustment and on which panels?

Thanks
Sorry, forgot to mention. That was the first thing i looked at when i noticed what was done. Both of the glass roofs are a tiny bit higher than the roof, but it's only be 1-2 millimeters.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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From both this thread and the noisy roof that was on the demo I drove, I will not be ordering the moon roof. I was undecided until hearing of multiple complaints. And has been stated before, if a dealership can't provide a demo without wind noise, I don't want to waste my time with possible repeated trips back and forth to get adjustments.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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Rhino--the demos were very early, and changes have been made since then. Not all sunroofs are noisy--I have a week 3 build date, yet mine is silent...
 
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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I'm also in TX. Do you find your roof lets in too much heat? I realize we haven't had that many warm days this spring, but I had heard it could be an issue.

rhino
 
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 11:56 AM
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Quiet as a mouse!

Originally Posted by daffodildeb
BritBoy, the sunroof CAN be silent--mine is, and I'm a week 3 build.
Mine is too. I don't have one.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 06:02 AM
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Almost 2 weeks now with constant use and still no wind noise.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by S2ki.com
Almost 2 weeks now with constant use and still no wind noise.
Since the fix, it's been about 2 weeks for me too. It's holding. The noise used to emanate mainly from the left side. After the fix, the left side is quiet, but there is still some noise from the right. I wouldn't care if I hadn't been sensitized to it by the initial noise.

After reading the thread and examining the roof carefully, I see that the right side is a little below the metal roof-line, whereas the left side sticks up about 1mm. This suggests that fiddling with the screws and positioning the roof properly is what is needed. Why it has taken the dealers so long to figure that out? Is this answer much too simple?

I am sorely tempted to get out the screwdriver and fiddle for fine-tuning, but also to understand the aerodynamics and flute-playing effect of the thing.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 08:40 AM
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Rhino--I'm hoping my dark tint job will help, but the jury's out as to how much. We live with a/c on most of the year anyway...
 
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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I'm picking my Mini up tomorrow, as they have fixed the roof (third time). When I spoke to the MA he wasn't too sure what they had done to fix it, so my confidence is pretty low.
 
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