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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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Hmmm...does the R56 resemble the R53 more than either resembles this?

 
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 10:33 PM
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And honestly, they coulda gone weirder...

 
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 10:36 PM
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 10:44 PM
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"The MINI Cooper is not a retro design car, but an evolution of the original. It has the genes and many of the key characteristics of its predecessor, but is larger, more powerful, more muscular and more exciting than its predecessor ever was".
 
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 10:53 PM
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hmmm... The wheel flares are way too big. And the side markers are just tacky - so big, and they join right into the seam of the hood. What were they thinking.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 11:31 PM
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Those side vents would have been beautiful. It looks like a void space where the three panels intersect (that strap across the hood, the hood itself, and the panel behind the tire) with a little piece over top. really, really nice. I wish our side repeaters stood alone on the body work like that.

Really lovely rear flare, looks like a 911 turbo from the 80s.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 07:12 AM
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Could have this been the R56 shape that got lost in the shuffle??

Now that's cool! I'd consider that for my next car over the 56.

Tell me it's not photoshopped.

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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by C4
Could have this been the R56 shape that got lost in the shuffle??

Wowzer... how cool is thatl! Nicely slammed, retro yet modern. Now that one could have been another classic R53 in the making. What was BMW thinking when they moved away from that design?
 
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 08:26 AM
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I like the looks of that one, a lot ...but, not as a MINI. I just doesn't look very MINI-like to me. Its too sleek ...it looks more Italian (which is a good thing).

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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 10:52 AM
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Photoshopped? Man - that drawing is signed by the deity's hand. It was done in 1998, as dated at his sig.

Its lower, wider, hoodscoop with no bulge and all the sweet lines of the R50. Its everything the R53 hoped to be, but came up short.

No problem. I cut it immense slack. I still love the car. Who couldn't.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 07:52 AM
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The marty feldman thing is funny and I have an R56 coming. I would just like to point out that someone who is secure in his/her feelings for a vehicle sees no need to denegrate another. Instead of threading hate through here, maybe read Dr. Seuess's "Sneetches" (or something like that -- read it a long time ago).
 
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 07:57 AM
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Lynn, I feel very "secure"about my choice. FWIW
 
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by C4
Could have this been the R56 shape that got lost in the shuffle??

Maybe it's the revised Clubman nose?
 
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by dwdyer
And honestly, they coulda gone weirder...

This is great! Someone should paint eyebrows on the windshield!
 
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 08:10 AM
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Lynn, I feel very "secure"about my choice. FWIW
I didn't say I was referring to you. I happen to find your posts enjoyable and don't see why ppl get so mad about them.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 08:15 AM
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R56 looks much better than this!!! In fact, the Traveller concepts seemed to give clear indicators to what many of the design elements of R56 would be.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 08:26 AM
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ok so it must be something wacky with my browser. My "paste"function is suddenly disabled. I'll try my Mac when I get home and see if I experience the same in either Safari or Firefox. Right now I am running Winblows XP and IE7.
windows - not thats a topic to slap around...
 
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by C4
Could have this been the R56 shape that got lost in the shuffle??

Well I've got to say I would have preferred these headlamps to the R56, these look a little more sinister and less wall-eyed. Having said that, I still love the look of the R56.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by lava
hmmm... The wheel flares are way too big. And the side markers are just tacky - so big, and they join right into the seam of the hood. What were they thinking.
Note that this is a Stephenson design sketch. The man himself. :-)
 
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by dwdyer
Note that this is a Stephenson design sketch. The man himself. :-)
You can probably guess the vintage of the sketch (pre-BMW) by the much wider Mini wings logo.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 10:16 AM
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I was being sarcastic - mocking criticisms of the R56.

Seriously, it is interesting that side markers on the R56 are a hybrid of the R50/53 and the ones in this sketch by Stephenson.

The wheel flares are a different issue. I think the ones in this sketch are hopelessly optimistic, as are many aspects of all designers' sketches, but that is the purpose of sketching ideas, is it not? But the car does look like a tricked out Mini and the wheel flares remind me of a Porsche Turbo as mentioned above.

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You can probably guess the vintage of the sketch (pre-BMW) by the much wider Mini wings logo.
It says 98 right next to the sig on the front spoiler.

Pre BMW? Was Stephenson working for Rover before BMW got involved? I thought he was assigned to the project by BMW, and there were competing teams from BMW and Rover advancing designs for the car, Stephensons group prevailing as we know.
 

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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by lava
It says 98 right next to the sig on the front spoiler.
totally missed that.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 10:26 AM
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Have there been any body kits that replaced the stock flares with wider stuff like that sketch? Give you room for outrageously wide rubber?
 
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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In reference to the classic Mini shown earlier...I do think the less curvy bonnet of R56 shows more influence from the classic. Based on this, I am a fan. If anything, given the new pedestrian standards...the R56 bonnet is now very form-follows-function and that is a very Mini thing.

In addition, the unified and more prominent front grill also seems to harken back to the classic, as does the whole more similified look up front. In the end (as much as I liked bumper stips as a design carry-over from the classic), they were merely cosmetic.
 
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