R56 Had my 2012 S for few weeks, questions regarding shifting technique
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Had my 2012 S for few weeks, questions regarding shifting technique
Hi everyone
I've had my 2012 S and learned to drive manual on it. I have a few questions:
At what revs do you guys change gears for non-aggressive around town driving?
Do you guys find that the car shakes when you engage/disengage the throttle in 1/2 gear? Even if I feather the throttle really gently there's still a bit of a shake.
Any recommendations on how to get better/smoother?
Any recommendations on how to maximize the life of my clutch?
Thanks!
I've had my 2012 S and learned to drive manual on it. I have a few questions:
At what revs do you guys change gears for non-aggressive around town driving?
Do you guys find that the car shakes when you engage/disengage the throttle in 1/2 gear? Even if I feather the throttle really gently there's still a bit of a shake.
Any recommendations on how to get better/smoother?
Any recommendations on how to maximize the life of my clutch?
Thanks!
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I change gears at 3,000/3,500 when non aggressive.
Can you please describe the shake in great detail? I don't think I have it. Sounds like possibly not matching engine revs to car MINI's speed. I have noticed at times I need to delay letting the clutch out to let the motor spin down a little more when up shifting.
Can you please describe the shake in great detail? I don't think I have it. Sounds like possibly not matching engine revs to car MINI's speed. I have noticed at times I need to delay letting the clutch out to let the motor spin down a little more when up shifting.
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My dad drove it and it was fine. My motorcycle sometimes does the same thing when i'm not very delicate with the throttle in the lower gears. Maybe I just have to be more careful?
I'll try and describe it better: in 2nd gear if i'm in the low RPM range, say 2000 and I engage and disengage the throttle the car lurches a little back and forth. Engine doesn't putter or anything like that. Same happens if I poorly time my clutch disengage during gear shifts.
I'll try and describe it better: in 2nd gear if i'm in the low RPM range, say 2000 and I engage and disengage the throttle the car lurches a little back and forth. Engine doesn't putter or anything like that. Same happens if I poorly time my clutch disengage during gear shifts.
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6th Gear
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I hadn't owned a manual for many years before picking up my 2011 MCS 6 manual. I was pretty good and smooth back in the day with my Dad's 84 T-Bird turbo coupe 5 speed. And later his 89 Probe GT turbo 5 speed. The clutch/throttle in the MINI seems very touchy, and hard to get smooth shifts from, even with 3 years and almost 60k miles under my belt. (I bought it used at 21k) I am gonna blame the dual mass flywheel on this. It seems to be hard to rev-match perfectly. I CAN drive smoothly at times, other times, it seems a bit herky-jerky. When not "on it", I usually shift at 2500-3000 rpm's or so. I am at almost 80k on the original clutch, and it still works just fine. I feel the key to clutch longevity is to spend as much time off of the clutch pedal as possible. Only put your foot on the clutch pedal when needed, NEVER ride the clutch. That will surely burn out not only your clutch plate, but also your throw-out bearing. I usually drive alone, so no issues with the herky-jerky stuff. Even the wife doesn't complain when we go on trips, and she has had several cars with manual transmissions. Which she also burned the clutches out of. No room to talk. LOL! Practice makes perfect, or close enough! Motor On!
Last edited by renchjeep; 09-06-2017 at 10:24 AM.
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I hadn't owned a manual for many years before picking up my 2011 MCS 6 manual. I was pretty good and smooth back in the day with my Dad's 84 T-Bird turbo coupe 5 speed. And later his 89 Probe GT turbo 5 speed. The clutch/throttle in the MINI seems very touchy, and hard to get smooth shifts from, even with 3 years and more than 60k miles under my belt. (I bought it used at 21k) I am gonna blame the dual mass flywheel on this. It seems to be hard to rev-match perfectly. I CAN drive smoothly at times, other times, it seems a bit herky-jerky. When not "on it", I usually shift at 2500-3000 rpm's or so. I am at almost 89k on the original clutch, and it still works just fine. I feel the key to clutch longevity is to spend as much time off of the clutch pedal as possible. Only put your foot on the clutch pedal when needed, NEVER ride the clutch. That will surely burn out not only your clutch plate, but also your throw-out bearing. I usually drive alone, so no issues with the herky-jerky stuff. Even the wife doesn't complain when we go on trips, and she has had several cars with manual transmissions. Which she also burned the clutches out of. No room to talk. LOL! Practice makes perfect, or close enough! Motor On!
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6th Gear
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https://www.phoenixfriction.com/t-pu...-flywheel.aspx
Somewhat of an explanation. Said to decrease NVH.
Somewhat of an explanation. Said to decrease NVH.
Last edited by renchjeep; 09-08-2017 at 12:41 AM.
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I'll try and describe it better: in 2nd gear if i'm in the low RPM range, say 2000 and I engage and disengage the throttle the car lurches a little back and forth. Engine doesn't putter or anything like that. Same happens if I poorly time my clutch disengage during gear shifts.
It may help to adjust your seating position. I prefer my seat to be slid back so the ***** of my feet are controlling the peddles with my heal on the floor as a pivot point.
also as a temporary solution, depress the clutch as you let off the gas. (but you will get used to the gas peddle control and not need to do this in the future)
#13
my first manual, but not my first car..
she's definitely more jerky in green mode, but honestly I've learned the gas she needs in green mode while shifting and it's become quite pleasant...been able to really drive it like a 7-series honestly, while in green mode.
Sport mode, which is the only other mode I drive in, my daily mode, she slides into gears...
I've also noticed a huge difference with the shifting performance while the engine's at high RPM's. I definitely take off a lot more, chasing that seamless 1st to 2nd.
I'm also not 100% sure on my seating position, but I've got no one to tell me otherwise.
she's definitely more jerky in green mode, but honestly I've learned the gas she needs in green mode while shifting and it's become quite pleasant...been able to really drive it like a 7-series honestly, while in green mode.
Sport mode, which is the only other mode I drive in, my daily mode, she slides into gears...
I've also noticed a huge difference with the shifting performance while the engine's at high RPM's. I definitely take off a lot more, chasing that seamless 1st to 2nd.
I'm also not 100% sure on my seating position, but I've got no one to tell me otherwise.
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my first manual, but not my first car..
she's definitely more jerky in green mode, but honestly I've learned the gas she needs in green mode while shifting and it's become quite pleasant...been able to really drive it like a 7-series honestly, while in green mode.
Sport mode, which is the only other mode I drive in, my daily mode, she slides into gears...
I've also noticed a huge difference with the shifting performance while the engine's at high RPM's. I definitely take off a lot more, chasing that seamless 1st to 2nd.
I'm also not 100% sure on my seating position, but I've got no one to tell me otherwise.
she's definitely more jerky in green mode, but honestly I've learned the gas she needs in green mode while shifting and it's become quite pleasant...been able to really drive it like a 7-series honestly, while in green mode.
Sport mode, which is the only other mode I drive in, my daily mode, she slides into gears...
I've also noticed a huge difference with the shifting performance while the engine's at high RPM's. I definitely take off a lot more, chasing that seamless 1st to 2nd.
I'm also not 100% sure on my seating position, but I've got no one to tell me otherwise.
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as respectful I am of cars, considering I've waxed her five times since January (when I got her), it's a lease! Haven't noticed any issues at all. What i do notice is the dif in shifting between green and sport, but today in mid mode I think I noticed that shifts were actually super smooth. I'm going to continue to drive in sport to learn the clutch better. Find her very unreliable in terms of handling in my commutes when in mid or green! I need that power immediately.