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Old Feb 12, 2017 | 12:03 PM
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Overtightened nuts.

Hi there,
I decided to take out the car's wheels and check the brake pads and disk wear.

The BMW garage that I used to take the car, have overtightened the wheel nuts. I tried to break them using both an impact wrench and the wrench that comes with the car, without any luck.

Any ideas how to unbolt the nuts? Once I do it, should i replace them as well?
I will try with a breaker bar the next days, but I don't expect much luck. I am afraid that I will damage the nuts...

The correct torque is 140 Nm....
 
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Old Feb 12, 2017 | 12:56 PM
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use a good quality 6 point half inch drive socket. Put a pipe on the end of your breaker bar if you need. Be sure to hold the socket nice and square and you will not damage the bolts.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2017 | 01:42 PM
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for the record there can be quite a difference in performance between two impact wrenches.


The first one I had was what came included in a kit of tools with my compressor. At the recommended service pressure for the tool, it would not budge even GEN1 MINI lugs which were only 81 ftlbs, 110Nm

So I went and bought a decent impact wrench - a decent brand and not the cheapest one - suddenly wheel bolts/lugs were NO PROBLEM ..... same compressor and same service pressure
 
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Old Feb 12, 2017 | 04:31 PM
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Stand on the edge of the breaker bar. Works every time for my grand cherokee.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2017 | 07:08 PM
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Take your car back to the guys who installed your wheels. Have them break them loose & re-torque to spec. If you break a lug bolt it is on you. If they break do they'll have to fix their screw up.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2017 | 08:47 PM
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If they were extremely over torqued you should consider replacing them as the threads could well be distorted and not hold properly any longer.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2017 | 12:15 PM
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^^^ Good point the bolts could very well be stretched. Have the shop that did this replace them while they are making things right for you..
 
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Old Feb 13, 2017 | 12:20 PM
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I agree you should take it back to the shop that over-torqued them.

That being said, when I read the title I thought a good solution would be "just switch to wearing boxers".

Eric
 
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Old Feb 13, 2017 | 02:40 PM
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Going back to original shop in theory is the thing to do, then again are they going to admit faults and then fix them properly? I would fix myself or find a better shop if it was my car. Nice to have a torque wrench at home to check.

Also is corrosion a factor?
 
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Old Feb 13, 2017 | 06:52 PM
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When I get tires replaced I always take my torque wrench with and insist on setting the bolts myself. I go around each wheel twice. Then, I'll take it for a couple miles on the highway then re-torque. I always find a little slack on a bolt or two.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Fly'n Brick
When I get tires replaced I always take my torque wrench with and insist on setting the bolts myself. I go around each wheel twice. Then, I'll take it for a couple miles on the highway then re-torque. I always find a little slack on a bolt or two.
What he said! I never trust a tire shop's torque wrench.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2017 | 05:30 AM
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Thanks guys. After some complicated (for me) thoughts, I managed to unbolt everything and re-tightened to factory settings.

(Still LMAO with the "just switch to wearing boxers" boxers!)
 
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Old Feb 23, 2017 | 05:15 AM
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thanks for the update, most of the time i hear about this its was at a NTB or other tire/wheels shops that put them on with impacts. Yikes. I always back them off and retighten them with a torque wrench and a good long impact 17mm socket after I get new tires put on. Most MINI dealerships have coupons (online or in the mail) where the mount and balance is the same price (with discount) as everyone else.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2017 | 03:01 PM
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The only shop that ever over tightened lug bolts for me was my local MINI dealer. My local tire shop uses torque sticks & then does the final torque with a torque wrench.
 
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