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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 04:23 PM
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Clutch Question

I have enough money saved up for a new clutch kit, but I'm debating how necessary it is for a kit with a new flywheel. I'm looking to put about 240-270 lbft of torque into my JCW engine. However, if I can save about 400-600 dollars by just going with a stage or 3 clutch rather than going all out for a clutch kit I would like to use that money to save up for a good LSD.

I was looking at the Spec stage 3 clutch for about $650. If I were to get this clutch and a good LSD would I really need a clutch kit that includes a flywheel? I don't and won't be bringing this car to the track. The only spirited driving it would see is through the mountains for about 10-20mins tops, every other week.

Also, how much would I be looking at to pay for the clutch and/or clutch kit to be installed?
 
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 05:40 PM
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If you want a reliable clutch go with the OS Giken. For a street car you can save a little by getting the Quaife
 
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 08:05 PM
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If you havn't cooked/blued the fly wheel should be fine. It may need to be faced though, just in case.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 08:33 PM
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Typically a dual mass flywheel should not be resurfaced. Its not cost effective. Since it is a two piece design it would need to be taken apart and then reassembled using new parts such as springs. Just my opinion.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 11:14 PM
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If you swapp out the clutch as soon as it starts to slip, BEFORE it gets damaged from the heat of a slipping clutch or the rivets, you MIGHT be able to "scotchbrite" it (deglase it, and clean it with a scotchbrite pad, you CANNOT HAVE A DUAL MASS FLYWHEEL resurfaced), and reuse it...key word is might. I would.....but with the time involved with a clutch, it might be" pennywise, pound foolish" if it shortens the life or performance of the new clutch....
 
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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 04:27 AM
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Not for nothing, but you really are using the wrong car if you want to put out 270 Ft-lbs of torque, install a LSD, and a clutch, while saving a few hundred dollars.

Way is correct, the OS Giken clutch is probably the way to go ($1800), the Quaife LSD ($1000, and what I have). Installation, (remove transmission, install LSD cost me just over $1000), doing a clutch and flywheel at the same time would probably be another hr's work. So you are already looking at about $3800, so what's another $400? I mean really?
 
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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 07:31 AM
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Plenty of broken dreams and wallets on NAM with Spec and Clutch Masters kits for the R56. It doesn't make sense why making a good clutch for this car is so hard and why OS Giken is the only company that can get it right.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2013 | 09:44 AM
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Does anyone know the difference between the OEM S clutch and the JCW clutch? The part numbers are different on the clutch kit and the flywheel, but are both 228mm and are both the same price.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2013 | 09:39 AM
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Curious...how many miles did you have on your car when the clutch needed replaced. I had ~55k on mine. I am the third owner and bought the car with 29K on the odometer. I have never smoked the clutch, but, the flywheel was blued and cracked so I replaced the flywheel and clutch assy (with JCW parts), rear rotors and pads for ~$3200. I cannot tell you the difference between JCW and Cooper S parts, only that the JCW is suppose to last longer (if not abused of course).
 
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Old Mar 17, 2013 | 11:52 AM
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I had 75k on it when it started to slip. I've had the car for a year, so I can't say for sure if it is the original clutch. I'll probably just go for the JCW clutch kit and flywheel. The parts will end up at around $1200. I plan to buy a lift for my garage and do it myself. It looks like the labor savings would pay for the lift.
 
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