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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 08:14 PM
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Best engine mod for the money

Im looking to do a few quick and easy upgrades, what is the best and most worth while mod you guys have found? As in the best bang for the buck. Or just the biggest bhp increase per dollar.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 08:18 PM
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Most bang for the buck?....a driving school. The BMW club (BMWCCA.org) organizes some great ones.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 08:25 PM
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An Alta Access port.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...rt-thread.html

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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 08:09 AM
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Nitrous is the best bang for the buck. Couple hundred bucks for 50 or more horsepower.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by DneprDave

Unless you have a 2011.........
 
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 08:32 AM
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Year? S, non-S?
 
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 08:42 AM
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1st gen? 2nd gen?

What color?
 
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 08:46 AM
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The best bang for the buck mods for an R56 are the NM torque arm bushing, and an Hsport rear sway bar.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Melangell
1st gen? 2nd gen?

What color?
Color is very important. Even the smallest cheapest mod on a Chilli Red car will add a hundred horsepower!

Buy my count, I have to be up to a thousand HP by now!

Funny, it doesn't feel any faster, though.

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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 04:16 PM
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I wouldn't even THINK about nitrous with stock cars blowing pistons.

If I wanted to get big power on an R56, I would get a combination of a Howerton Engineering HFS-3, a high flow downpipe, and a custom tune (RMW or similar).

Also, a catch can and NM Torque arm insert.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 05:11 PM
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I wouldn't even THINK about nitrous with stock cars blowing pistons.

If I wanted to get big power on an R56, I would get a combination of a Howerton Engineering HFS-3, a high flow downpipe, and a custom tune (RMW or similar).

Also, a catch can and NM Torque arm insert.
Whatever a 50 maybe even a 75 shot would be fine. Its people putting too much boost in them for long periods that are blowing stuff up.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 05:28 PM
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Whatever a 50 maybe even a 75 shot would be fine. Its people putting too much boost in them for long periods that are blowing stuff up.
Yes that's true, although it's not really the extra boost, it's detonation and heat. More boost means more cylinder pressure, and usually more heat. Even though nitrous cools the cylinder down, the pressure is much higher than extra boost.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 07:24 PM
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I wouldn't even THINK about nitrous with stock cars blowing pistons.

If I wanted to get big power on an R56, I would get ....
.... another car to go with it. With about 330 hp.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 08:30 PM
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F it real people stick 400 shots in their MINIs and race
 
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Porthos
F it real people stick 400 shots in their MINIs and race
How long do the cars last?

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.... another car to go with it. With about 330 hp.
Haha yeah to be honest, for me, modifying the R56 is more about getting safe power than extracting every last bit from the engine. They're just too finnicky. If you want raw power, I would suggest another car to be honest. I have no problem with people trying to squeeze everything they can from any car, but to the majority of people who don't know too much about cars, I would recommend minimising the possibility of engines getting FUBAR, as these cars aren't slow.
 
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How long do the cars last?
About one or two shots and then a piston goes through the hood. But you will have the most power out of a R56.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 06:47 AM
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About one or two shots and then a piston goes through the hood. But you will have the most power out of a R56.
That doesn't sound like the best mod for the money...in the long run.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 07:16 AM
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About one or two shots and then a piston goes through the hood. But you will have the most power out of a R56.
They will come on here and talk about it, but never show pictures or documentation too.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by etalj
I wouldn't even THINK about nitrous with stock cars blowing pistons.

If I wanted to get big power on an R56, I would get a combination of a Howerton Engineering HFS-3, a high flow downpipe, and a custom tune (RMW or similar).
^^This!
 
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by etalj
I wouldn't even THINK about nitrous with stock cars blowing pistons.

If I wanted to get big power on an R56, I would get a combination of a Howerton Engineering HFS-3, a high flow downpipe, and a custom tune (RMW or similar).

Also, a catch can and NM Torque arm insert.
Ya and what gain 30 maybe 40 HP for a couple grand? Or you could spend $400 and get a 50hp increase whenever you want it. Best bang for the buck means spend the least amount of money and gaining the most amount of horsepower. N2O is ok to use if you are not over spraying a stock motor. Now if you built the motor with better internals and then you can put a higher shot into and still spend less then what you just posted.



The reason I am not doing it is because I have no need for N20, so don't ask.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 01:37 PM
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30-40hp is a 20% increase in power. Even though it sounds small that's quite significant.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Porthos
Ya and what gain 30 maybe 40 HP for a couple grand? Or you could spend $400 and get a 50hp increase whenever you want it. Best bang for the buck means spend the least amount of money and gaining the most amount of horsepower. N2O is ok to use if you are not over spraying a stock motor. Now if you built the motor with better internals and then you can put a higher shot into and still spend less then what you just posted.



The reason I am not doing it is because I have no need for N20, so don't ask.
Yep, 30-40hp, or in on case, 62whp with just HFS-3 and tune.

Also, I'm sure the OP meant bang for buck without blowing a piston through the bonnet. HFS-3 will ensure NO carbon buildup on the intake valves, and will allow the car to run safely ANYWHERE, on the track, in the heat, on the road.

Do you see any N2O on R56 motors anywhere that run safely with a 50 shot? Have any tests or data logging been done to ensure safe running?

If I wanted to track my R56, I would get a water/meth kit over a nitrous kit, and so would a lot of other track users who don't want to have to rebuild an engine to get a similar amount of power.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 09:31 PM
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Does the hfs-3 merely ensure safe running or does it boost power as well? How are the gains with the rmw tune on an r56 s (non-jcw)? More so than with an alta AP tuner?
 
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 05:17 AM
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Stealthcat DP. Cost about £130 (including buying a spare DP to mod) and gives about 10bhp and a little more noise too = win.

Getting rid of runflats is probably the next best VFM mod
 
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 07:33 AM
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a grille badge adds about 8 hp and only 40 bucks..
 
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